but the original disc id is still attached to the profile... so don't need to worry about new people being able to download the profile. And the program automatically locks your disc id field... so it won't change it for those that already have it.

We are not required to create a new profile... not going by what Ken posted.

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but the original disc id is still attached to the profile... so don't need to worry about new people being able to download the profile.

I'm not worried that they won't be able to find the profile to download. I'm concerned about the quality of info in the profile they download.

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And the program automatically locks your disc id field... so it won't change it for those that already have it.

But it screws up the Disc-ID to those that actually bought that disc and then download the profile, only to find that the disc ID is wrong. It was corrupted by someone who didn't even own that disc. Whether they realize it immediately and fix it isn't really the point. If there had been two correct Disc-ID profiles from which to choose, no one would have to fix their disc-IDs after downloading the profiles. That seems preferable to me than having one disc-ID profile which may or may not have an accurate disc-ID.

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but the original disc id is still attached to the profile... so don't need to worry about new people being able to download the profile. And the program automatically locks your disc id field... so it won't change it for those that already have it.

Yes, you are correct with everything you say here.
But, that doesn't change the fact that you would be putting a disc ID into a profile where it doesn't belong.

Disc ID profiles must have a matching Disc ID in the Disc section otherwise it's the wrong Profile for said disc.

I truly am at a loss for why this is so hard.

Do what you want locally; but please don't submit this?

I really, truly, don't think Ken has thought through what he said. His statement only makes sense if we no longer want to use the Disc ID/EAN/UPC as an identifier - then it doesn't matter what disc IDs are assigned.

Anyway, do what you want. You will anyway.

I will follow what Ken said to the letter until such time he changes his mind or not. I will always follow how I read the rules as I understand them and Ken's statements on the forum over another member of the community. It is Ken's database. He is the one that makes the decisions. As I said early in this thread I would hold off till Ken made a decision... and would do it however he decides. And that is what I did.

I honestly don't see how it will. Just means that 2 numbers in the profile may not match (where the upc is in the general info tab [serves no purpose that I can tell] and the number in the disc info section) in some cases.

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I honestly don't see how it will. Just means that 2 numbers in the profile may not match (where the upc is in the general info tab [serves no purpose that I can tell]

Aaaaarghhh! That's the most important number what comes to databases. It's the part of the primary key which separates one profile from another. Without primary key db cannot work. Are you sure that Skip hasn't cracked your account?

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I will follow what Ken said to the letter until such time he changes his mind or not. I will always follow how I read the rules as I understand them and Ken's statements on the forum over another member of the community. It is Ken's database. He is the one that makes the decisions. As I said early in this thread I would hold off till Ken made a decision... and would do it however he decides. And that is what I did.

I will never contribute a disc-ID to a disc-ID profile that I do not own. My sense of what's right tells me that to do so is wrong, even if Ken says it's ok.

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I'm confused as how entering disc ids will be a problem for the database.

There can be multiple disc ids entered for a single movie so what difference does it make if yet another one is entered?

Even if it is wrong, so what? How will that change anything?

When you put a disc in your DVD-ROM drive, the program has the ability to select that profile for you. This works if the disc-ID is in the profile is correct. In UPC-profiles, we know that multiple disc-IDs may be submitted and therefore this data is questionable. The debate is whether users can submit alternate disc-IDs to a disc-ID profile. Doing so creates a data error (because in reality, the disc-ID must match itself by definition) and eliminates the functionality of the program selecting the profile.

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I honestly don't see how it will. Just means that 2 numbers in the profile may not match (where the upc is in the general info tab [serves no purpose that I can tell]

It's purpose is to serve as the primary key of the database.

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and the number in the disc info section) in some cases.

This affects the functionality of the program to select the profile automatically.

But it don't have to match. Something I always believed to be true and something Ken has confirmed to be true.