Quoting DarklyNoon:

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You don't get it Skip, you will never get it!

Do you even look at the useless poll ?

9 people want your damn full open credits
NINE !!!!!!!
Lets me say it again... NINE people....

And so far ONE, let me say it..ONE of those is an active contributor...

Which 1?

Quoting DarklyNoon:

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I would like to have a statement of KEN if he is planning to implement the open credits crap that those non-contributors are suggesting.

And as I have spoken to some of the main contributors during the last hours, many will follow deejays decision and will immediately stop with everything that helps the DVD Profiler community.

Soon you are left here with a few people , and all they are doing is suggesting ridiculous changes to a great program.

And then you will ask yourself, why did all those contributors, pluginmakers, helpful guys have left, and why are we left here with a bunch of (insert a word of your choice).

Donnie

Why so "hostile".  It is a discussion, Ken has not said one way or another.

I for one would continue to contribute.  I will do so, almost no matter what the outcome.  This is not about me, and I do favor some form of "Open Credits"

Why wouldn't you?

If you could maintain only the parts that you want (You choose) and ignore the rest, what harm is there.  People are correct though, we have limited amount of default categories now, we are placing things into these, that basically have no meaning.  Or we argue about what goes where (1000's of pages of arguements)

I have suggested, lets have the true basics as selectible credits.  Basically the entries you would find in most opening or closing credits (director, producer, executive producer, writer, editor, composer, casting, production designer, maybe a couple of others), would be selectable.  If people only wanted that, then great, that is what they get.  The rest would be catgorized (production, direction, post production, sound, Effects, Make up, costumes, and what ever other categories were there), then you would enter wysiwyt, no arguing.  "You" then can select from the profile what you want.  You don't have to have any, or ou could have it all (ar any place in between).  it is up to you.

Why would you not want a more versatile system?

Charlie

Quoting mdnitoil:

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With all of this cheery talk extolling the virtues of open credits, I'm surprised that nobody has delved into the practical nuts and bolts of such a thing.  For exampe, how exactly do we think the voting will go on these things?  The screeners can't possibly know if the data is correct, the chances for typos have shot through the roof, and the voters can barely be bothered to confirm opening credits crew today.  Who in the world is actually going to check this stuff besides the contibutor?

Somebody has been bandying about the crazy guy who enters the complete LoTR credits.  What about the crazy guy who has to check on them all in order to vote properly?

It would probably have to be submitted to an anonymous panel.  It would not be easy at first, but it could get done.

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But 40 is the majority by a long shot, Rick, or suddenly that's not good enough for you. Why would i not be surprised           Maybe I should start calling you Al Gore.

Rick while i don't buy into the majority, you have numerous times. live by the sword, die by it. But, please, do it gracefully.

I never said it wasn't a majority. [deleted]

You know what, nevermind. You have proven time and time again you read only the words you want to read. It really doesn't matter what I say. 

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And 33 don't want them.

Wait, needs more emphasis... 33 don't want them. THIRTY THREE

As I said earlier. The community is split. You keep carrying on like it's a 3-1 majority or something.

Well, if we are going be completely accurate, the 16 that went with option 3 are closer to 'no changes' than they are to open credits.  I say that because option 3 added 'as credited' data while keeping what we already have.  That would make it 43, in favor of keeping what we have, and only 24 in favor of open credits.  Not quite a 3-1 majority, but a majority none the less.

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Quoting lyonsden5:

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And 33 don't want them.

Wait, needs more emphasis... 33 don't want them. THIRTY THREE

As I said earlier. The community is split. You keep carrying on like it's a 3-1 majority or something.

Well, if we are going be completely accurate, the 16 that went with option 3 are closer to 'no changes' than they are to open credits.  I say that because option 3 added 'as credited' data while keeping what we already have.  That would make it 43, in favor of keeping what we have, and only 24 in favor of open credits.  Not quite a 3-1 majority, but a majority none the less.

I was thinking the same thing but felt I would be accused of twisting poll results to match what I want. Then I figured I would get called a name, like Al Gore. Seems as though it really didn't matter what I said I was targeted anyway.

FWIW I agree with your assessment of the poll but I do see where it could be argued option 3 is a form of open credits already.

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Quoting lyonsden5:

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And 33 don't want them.

Wait, needs more emphasis... 33 don't want them. THIRTY THREE

As I said earlier. The community is split. You keep carrying on like it's a 3-1 majority or something.

Well, if we are going be completely accurate, the 16 that went with option 3 are closer to 'no changes' than they are to open credits.  I say that because option 3 added 'as credited' data while keeping what we already have.  That would make it 43, in favor of keeping what we have, and only 24 in favor of open credits.  Not quite a 3-1 majority, but a majority none the less.

That's an interesting interpretation since it does involve Credited As and it does involve change.

As I said Unicus 

While #3 involves Credited As and a Change and a large improvement over where we are right now. I don't see it doing a whole lot  in terms of ending this back and forth. I still see people asking whether to include this, that or something else, accompanied by endless discussion and sometimes resultant hostility.