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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
Quoting force:
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It has nothing to do with online (web) display. We want to download (already corrected) overviews and contribute (corrected) overviews exactlyaswe do wievery other field. No need for an online DB at all if everyone should fill in all their own fields.[/blockquo
Likewise, there would be no need for a personal database if you insist on having everything the same as the online. A simple list of UPC or disc ID matches would do. It goes both ways. You still haven't understood that they exist because they have different purposes. Instead you assume that everyone wants the same thing as you and therefore there must be something wrong with the online.
And we all know how good, bad or indifferent those that relied only on an only presence. The weakness of such a system is why none of them survived even dvdspot. The only surviving collection programs are designed similarly to profiler because it is a powerful model to work from. Profiler has become the best because it has both an online and a local system giving tremendous power to its users, the few that dont understand that or refuse to move from the model that they lost will be crippled. Its sad but its their loss, yes alien and Yves this means both of you to name just two. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | And btw well said Kino. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Of course, my arguments are against a rule change to allow "corrections" because I can't see where it would end once you start to allow them. If it is now a feature request, I don't have anything against it, but I don't think it's realistic to expect a program change, nor is this the right forum to discuss it. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agreed | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
Likewise, there would be no need for a personal database if you insist on having everything the same as the online. Where did I say that I insist on (or want) that ? Quote:
A simple list of UPC or disc ID matches would do. It goes both ways. Would it? That would be a nice program to have offline. A list of only UPC or disc ID's ?  Quote:
You still haven't understood that they exist because they have different purposes. Instead you assume that everyone wants the same thing as you and therefore there must be something wrong with the online. You should stop accusing people for things you know nothing about. Obviously you don't understand a thing of what I'm saying. And please don't put words in my mouth. | | | | Last edited: by No-way |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Force
With all due respect to you. Kino was not making any accusations, he was making a perfectly valid observation. One easily made basedon your refusal to acknowledge or discuss anything offered by way of explanation, instead you repeatedly came back with I want it. MY way. The online was designed as it is for a reason, the rules were likewise developed for a reason and the two interlock to create the most powerful program of its kind. We had to have real rules, hard and fast, because users simply refused to contribute based on the common good of the community but twisted and corrupted the system to their own personal.. we had to have a common data entry system that was easy to execute by all. The upshot became where we derive our data from. This allows all users to contribute exactly the same data noatter what, it doesnt spring from dome users claim of bad spelling, grammar or his supposed expertise about names. The data source is prescribed and the data is what it is, user interpretation or data manipulation cannot be allowed online, it weakens the entire program. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting force: Quote:
Quoting KinoNiki:
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Likewise, there would be no need for a personal database if you insist on having everything the same as the online.
Where did I say that I insist on (or want) that ? I have to say that this statement... "It has nothing to do with online (web) display. We want to download (already corrected) overviews and contribute (corrected) overviews exactly as we do with every other field. No need for an online DB at all if everyone should fill in all their own fields." ...seems to indicate that you want download, and upload, profiles that are already filled with correct data (what you feel is correct data). That being the case, both would match as there should be no need for you to change your local if the profiles you download are already correct...meaning they both would match. Now, that may not be what you meant, but it is how it came across. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I have to say that this statement...
"It has nothing to do with online (web) display. We want to download (already corrected) overviews and contribute (corrected) overviews exactly as we do with every other field. No need for an online DB at all if everyone should fill in all their own fields."
...seems to indicate that you want download, and upload, profiles that are already filled with correct data (what you feel is correct data). That being the case, both would match as there should be no need for you to change your local if the profiles you download are already correct...meaning they both would match.
Now, that may not be what you meant, but it is how it came across. You too ? Geez So now everyone who downloads and contributes to the database insists on having everything the same as the online ? | | | | Last edited: by No-way |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Btw force with regard to those that correctly refer to this as collection software. I dont think I need to define what a collection is, but I will try and describe for you why it is important that we capture whatever errors might exist. They define that release. Wand the error may ne fixed in some future release or form. Why is that important..sometimes errors have monetary value. We have no way to determine this, only time answers that, we can only make sure that the data is accurately captured erors and all. Any future fixes will likely be delineated in a separate file, thus those with the error can track it, those with the fix can track and those which May own both. Almost a hundred years ago a few.copies of of a misprinted pstages stamp escaped into public hands, that error is immortalized in the appropriate collection medium, Nd should you own One...well I think you have a stamp valued in 6 or 7 figures. But if that error were not described, as you would like to do, then you would never know what you owned in summary mistakes are made and have to be recorded. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Martian was correct in his last line. It May not be what you meant, force, but it is how you came across. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
...Profiler has become the best because it has both an online and a local system giving tremendous power to its users, the few that dont understand that or refuse to move from the model that they lost will be crippled. Its sad but its their loss, yes alien and Yves this means both of you to name just two. I hardly understand what you mean about "my loss". I have been using DVDProfiler since the beginning of my movie collection, and I am perfectly happy with this program, associated with IMDb credits database, local data, and shared data that do not obey to Invelos rules (headshots and screen captures). So do not be sad for me, I'm not. We have just to be sad for users that do not have time to correct their profiles downloaded from Invelos online database, and are obliged to live with a collection of errors, with no way to have correct linking, sorting and filtering functions. | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | What is sad, my friend... Is that refuse to understand. You do however use your local prperly...for data the way you think it should be. Now if you would come to understand the separate function of the online vs. Local, you might find that you could become an active contributor again. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quote:
Martian was correct in his last line. It May not be what you meant, force, but it is how you came across. So it came across that way? Ok. Let me try to understand what you are saying: If I want to download (already corrected) overviews and contribute (corrected) overviews then I insists on having everything (cast, crew, title, subtitles, overview, etc. etc.) the same as online. But If I download (already exact (as the rules say)) overviews and contribute (exact) overviews, then I don't insist on having everything the same as the online? Is that what you are saying? If so, that is logical and make sense (not).  (As eveything else in here.) | | | | Last edited: by No-way |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | First point force
If you have been submitting data that is not exactly from the back covers, including errors. You have violated the rules, even though you mean well, and you should make the neccessary corrections, dont wait for someone else to fix your mistake.
Secondly if ken wants to come up with a way to give you what want without affecting the integrity of the actual data, that is his call, but it wont happen tomorrow.
Third just remember that your local is where the data as you want it is to be kept. Further when you upload your collection invelos creates a clone of YOUR data, so that anyone viewing your collection will see the data as you want it to appear. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 31, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,798 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quoting force :  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | While we are on the subject.
A suggestion for all. Please when correcting a typo take an extra few seconds and note that you are correcting a user generated typo, dont make the voters wonder or guess. Thank you. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Billy Video |
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