you simply submit and watch the votes to see if what you changed is voted no to (the other changes... not the disc id). If someone votes no that there's shows the original is correct I simply withdraw and resubmit as a new profile. It really isn't a hard thing to do.

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Quoting KinoNiki:

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...when using the disc ID as the sole identifier...

But it isn't the sole identifier. There is also the parent UPC.

Not sure what you mean here. There is no link from the disc ID profile to the parent, only vice versa. The child functions as an independent profile and can be part of more than one release so the parent you talk about isn't necessarily unique.

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you simply submit and watch the votes to see if what you changed is voted no to (the other changes... not the disc id). If someone votes no that there's shows the original is correct I simply withdraw and resubmit as a new profile. It really isn't a hard thing to do.

It sounds like you have more faith in the voting process than I have, and that all voters scrutinize everything.

I just think it is common sense that a dsic ID based profile ony be associated with a single disc ID.  But that is just my opinion.  Ken has made his ruling and we have our direction to proceed.

Ken has already ruled against always creating a new profile earlier in this thread...

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    We allow submission of alternate IDs in the Disc ID section for UPC-based profiles, so I don't see a good reason to disallow this for Disc-ID based profiles.

    One note: If the Disc ID is different. then the disc is definitely not an identical match.  There's some difference, be it in content or creation date. If that difference manifests in a way that's tracked in DVD Profiler, it should be entered as an independent profile under the new Disc ID.

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One note: If the Disc ID is different. then the disc is definitely not an identical match.  There's some difference, be it in content or creation date. If that difference manifests in a way that's tracked in DVD Profiler, it should be entered as an independent profile under the new Disc ID.

I agree with Katatonia. I don't think you're seeing the pertinent part of Ken's statement above, Pete. Bold by me. Disc ID's are 'tracked in DVD Profiler', so the new Disc ID should have it's own disc.

Two different disc IDs=2 different profiles. It's that simple - and, that's how I read Ken's statement.

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If that was a case  why would he put...

Quoting Ken Cole:

"so I don't see a good reason to disallow this for Disc-ID based profiles."

Quoting Ken Cole:
"If that difference manifests in a way that's tracked in DVD Profiler, it should be entered as an independent profile under the new Disc ID."

As long as the discs are the same content wise we are allowed to just add the alternate disc ID... tell me how we are not by what Ken has stated please?

With those two parts of his statement in there I just don't see how you think I must create a new profile if the content is the same.

Explain that away.

When Ken said "so I don't see a good reason to disallow this for Disc-ID based profiles" I see that as we CAN submit a different ID in a Disc ID level profile if we feel the need to.

I still see nothing that he posted that says we can't submit a new profile based on a different Disc ID.

In fact the rules say here to add the title based on the disc inserted in your DVD-ROM drive. If your ID is different than another Disc ID level profile currently in the database, it's not going to come up with that profile when you stick it in your drive.

And how exactly is a user even going to know if there are changes between two seperate Disc ID's of a disc? There could be any multitude of differences.

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What I am saying is per Ken's statement I am allowed to add an alternate disc ID to a disc id based profile... without having to worry about no votes for that reason.

Please tell me how I am being told that going by his statement I must always create a new profile.

I don't see it... but that is what I am being told here after his comment. Luckily I am not getting any no votes in my contributions yet.

I didn't ever say anything about that you couldn't add an alternate disc ID to a disc ID based profile. Ken has allowed that.

I also never said you must always create a new profile. What I am saying is that his post does not disallow the creation of new Disc ID profiles, which you claimed he ruled against.

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I didn't ever say anything about that you couldn't add an alternate disc ID to a disc ID based profile. Ken has allowed that.

Maybe he could reconsider his ruling since this doesn't make any sense.