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I agree except for the we. Some users are trying to mimic the graphics. And this doesn't make sense nor is it supported by the rules.

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You are yet again stating your opinion as if it were factual and it is only your opinion. It is clear from the comments of many users here that they do not share your opinion. So please, my friend stop with the opinion equals fact, it may for you but clearly not for all. <shakes head>

Please, tell me what's not factual:

Is it not factual that some but not all try to mimic graphics?
Is it not factual that this doesn't make sense? I give you this. Of course "making sense" is highly personal in this context. But I thought this is clear.
Is it not factual that mimicking graphics with text is not supported by the rules? Show me where the rules support this.

What is not factual is that the "4" in L4yer Cake  or in T4xi or the "7" in Se7en is a graphic. It is quite clearly an arabic "4" and an arabic "7".

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What is not factual is that the "4" in L4yer Cake  or in T4xi or the "7" in Se7en is a graphic. It is quite clearly an arabic "4" and an arabic "7".

I'm sorry but I can't agree with that. The Layer Cake dvd title may use text as a basis, but it is clearly a graphic logo - designed to mimic a UK car licence plate if I'm not mistaken.
Same with Taxi 4 - that's a logo on the cover, not text. Seven I'm undecided about, as I'm sure I've seen it written as Se7en in actual text.

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Unfortunately it does.  Since you can't, or won't, see that, and I can't, or won't see it your way, there is no point in further discussion.

It's a pity that the parser, that you claim to be, does not recognise that the conditional "If the title is shown run together, but with coloring and/or symbols splitting the title words" does not say anything at all about the case of run together titles without colour or symbol splitting.

It's a pity you don't seem to know what a parser does.  I am sorry, but you are wrong.  The rule addresses a specific situation, run together titles, and tells us when we can split them.  Once again, and for the last time, for it to be what you want it to be, "but with coloring and/or symbols splitting the title words" would have been left out.  You can pretend otherwise all you want, but it doesn't make it so.  At this point, I am done discussing this with you.

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What is not factual is that the "4" in L4yer Cake  or in T4xi or the "7" in Se7en is a graphic. It is quite clearly an arabic "4" and an arabic "7".

I'm sorry but I can't agree with that. The Layer Cake dvd title may use text as a basis, but it is clearly a graphic logo - designed to mimic a UK car licence plate if I'm not mistaken.

Doen't UK car license plates use arabic letters and numbers?

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Same with Taxi 4 - that's a logo on the cover, not text.

That is opinion, not fact...not that it really matters as this has already been decided by both Ken and Gerri.

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I missed the last pages but I can't undestand the confusion regarding Layer Cake and similar.

For title take what you can see on cover what you can reproduce with an ASCII character.

If the cover title don't matches the original title, add an original title.
For original title use the on-screen title of the country of origin.

If the original title differs, perhaps an example could be "Seven" and "Se7en", we get two original titles, which is not very nice, but would be according to rules.

This raises an interesting point. If you look closely at the Layer Cake cover, the final "e" is actually a backwards "3". What do we do about that? We cannot reproduce the entire title in ASCII so should we be representing only part or should we be converting the whole thing into text?
In this matter I completely agree with Charlie, we are trying to recreate a graphic representation of a title into text, rather than storing the actual title, which I thought would be what we are after.

Sorry, don't have the cover at hand.
But that doesn't matter, we can find exceptions for nearly everything.

Would I vote no, if someone would convert the whole title into text only, with the reason you've written? No.

Would I also vote yes to a half and half reason? Yes.

If the original title is Ok, I could live with both.

Edit: Thanks for the interesting demur.

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Gerri has already stated long ago that if it can be done on a standard keyboard without going into the character map that it is allowed... which means both Se7en and T4xi is both correct for the DVD Title.

If you're talking about the decision linked to by VirusPil earlier, I'm not sure it applies in these cases - that discussion was specifically about special characters - stars, dots and so on. I don't think I could define a 4 or a 7 as special characters.

She made a standard statement that if it can be done without going into the character map it is allowed.