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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's not fair. I'll admit that. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | Registered: March 16, 2007 | | Posts: 405 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
It's not fair. I'll admit that. Yes but you notice how quickly Blu-Ray supporters shout off about unfair pay-offs and HD-DVD supporters only mention it after said Blu-Ray supporter spouts off??? | | | | My Collection!!! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 460 |
| | Posted: | | | | You know what strikes me as very, very odd!?
Again a Blu-ray player is released, and ... again it is a 'so called' high-end player! Can't they release one or two cheap-a#$ players so that I can upgrade later on to a high-end | | | | Jean-Paul |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Calidain: Quote:
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It's not fair. I'll admit that.
Yes but you notice how quickly Blu-Ray supporters shout off about unfair pay-offs and HD-DVD supporters only mention it after said Blu-Ray supporter spouts off??? Actually, that's not entirely true. This was brought up about 50 or so pages ago. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Fox Ups Extras, BD-Java Support with 'Day After Tomorrow,' 'Fly' Blu-ray Releases
Specs are in for Fox Home Entertainment's 'Day After Tomorrow' and 'The Fly,' and both titles seem sure to please fans with the studio's most extensive array of bonus features BD-Java-enhanced extras yet.
Although the studio has taken some heat from high-def early adopters in the past for releasing largely feature-starved discs, they appear to be reversing that trend with a vengeance on both 'Tomorrow' and 'The Fly.'
Among the innovations are two BD-Java enhancements not-yet-seen on Fox high-def title: a Search function, indexing all of each disc's contents, as well as the Personal Scene Selections bookmark feature. In addition, each title will feature a BD-J interactive game ("Fly Zapper" on 'The Fly,' "Global Warming Interactive" on 'Tomorrow'), while 'The Fly' will also boast a pop-up trivia track.
The standard-def bonus features are copious as well, with 'The Day After Tomorrow' including two audio commentaries, ten deleted scenes and the film's original theatrical trailer.
'The Fly' is even more extensive, sporting by far the most supplements ever seen on a Fox Blu-ray disc. The virtual encyclopedia of material includes an audio commentary with Cronenberg, the four-part "Fear of the Flesh" documentary, twenty additional making-of vignettes, deleted and extended scenes, eight still galleries, a complete Trailer and TV spot gallery, plus a text-based archive containing reviews, essays, storyboards and the film's complete original screenplay.
Given the wealth of content included, it should come as no surprise that both releases are set to hit Blu-ray on BD-50 dual-layer discs. Other tech specs for both titles include 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 video and DTS-HD Lossless Master Audio 5.1 surround tracks.
'Day After Tomorrow' streets on October 2, while 'The Fly' is due a week later on October 9. Both are set to retail at a $39.98 MSRP.
You'll find complete disc details for 'The Day After Tomorrow' and 'The Fly' linked from our Blu-ray Release Schedule, indexed under October 2 and October 9, respectively.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | 'Nature's Journey' Blu-ray Release Delayed
Originally scheduled for dual-format release this week, the Blu-ray edition of 'Nature's Journey' has been pushed back by a month.
As we first reported back in July, the Blu-ray version of the made-for-high definition title was set to get the upper hand in terms of specs, with a peak 37mbps 1080i video encode and a DTS HD Lossless Master Audio 5.0 surround track vs the HD DVD's 26mpbs 1080i encode and a standard DTS-HD 5.0 surround track.
Now, although the HD DVD edition remains on track for release tomorrow (Sept 11), it seems some unforeseen snags have delayed the souped-up Blu-ray version.
Earlier today, we spoke with the disc's producer Richard Casey, who explained the reasons for the delay.
"We pushed the envelope with our sophisticated BD-J Menus, 37Mbps Video Encodes, and DTS-HD Master Audio," said Casey. "This caused problems for both the Professional Authoring and Compilation Tools as well as Consumer BD Players. Firmware updates and fixes had to be implemented to bring the tools and the players up to spec. We pretty much tripped up every tool and player showing their flaws and weaknesses with this release."
Casey says the Blu-ray edition of is now set for release on October 9th.
Source: Highdefdigest.com | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... | | | | Last edited: by NewEnglander |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
Among the innovations are two BD-Java enhancements not-yet-seen on Fox high-def title: a Search function, indexing all of each disc's contents, That sounds interesting. Maybe. I'd love more information on exactly what that means. Quote:
as well as the Personal Scene Selections bookmark feature. That's a nice feature on many HD DVDs. I've love that I can throw a disc in 6 months later and jump right to my favorites scenes.  And Universal now lets you create clips instead of just bookmarks. Very nice. Quote:
In addition, each title will feature a BD-J interactive game ("Fly Zapper" on 'The Fly,' "Global Warming Interactive" on 'Tomorrow'), while 'The Fly' will also boast a pop-up trivia track. Blah. Games bore me. If I want to play a game, I'm not going to browse my DVD collection to pick one out. Even my kids hate the games on DVDs. I'm sure HD DVD/Blu-ray games have a LOT more potential, but I still consider them a waste of time and space. That's why we have a Wii, Gameboys, DS Lite and even our computer. Quote:
The standard-def bonus features are copious as well... Nothing special there. I'm really looking forward to seeing some new and innovative features on these new formats. I've been mildly impressed with some of the features already out, but I look forward to seeing what else those creative type can come up with as the formats mature. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | New Line Home Entertainment has become the latest studio to jump into high-definition disc waters, announcing Sept. 10 that its first next-generation release will be the 2007 musical version of Hairspray. The film, which grossed $107.3 million in theaters, will be released on standard DVD and Blu-ray Disc Nov. 20. An HD DVD edition will follow, although no firm release date has been set. New Line’s support of both next-generation formats isn’t surprising, given that the label is distributed by Warner Home Video. Paramount’s recent defection from the Blu-ray camp left Warner the only major studio to support both Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD. Lasorsa said the HD DVD version of Hairspray will most likely be released some time in the first half of next year. He attributes the delay to region coding issues. Blu-ray has region coding, but HD DVD does not. “And since we sell to independent international distributors,” Lasorsa said, “we have to be more sensitive to their release dates than a major studio.” Even after Hairspray, most New Line titles will be released the same day on both standard DVD and Blu-ray Disc, with a lag for the HD DVD version. “But for second-party acquisitions to which we don’t have international rights,” Lasorsa said, “we will be day-and-date on all three formats.” The two-disc Blu-ray Disc edition will have all the extras on the “Shake and Shimmy” DVD, as well as an exclusive picture-in-picture option that lets viewers watch behind-the-scenes footage and on-screen commentary while they are watching the movie. Source: Home Media Retailing | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting JP_S: Quote:
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I never knew "facts" COULD be weaved. I knew TRUTHS could be weaved, but not facts. How do you weave 1 + 1 = 2?
Dumbest argument ever. Change the context change the meaning. With the right context 1+1=1.
But 1+1 could very well be 10 Changing the meaning means you are no longer talking about the same thing. That means you have in effect...changed the equation! That's not weaving. That's a complete break. I thought that was obvious. Moving on... I need to get through the rest of these. | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 460 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well this probably wouldn't sound strange but Sony is going to release four new high-end Blu-ray players!! WHOOHOOO  | | | | Jean-Paul |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting stefc: Quote:
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If HD DVD could produce 51GB discs at a price equal to BD50s (highly unlikely)
Reason behind this opinion? TL51 can be produced on existing HD DVD production lines so why would it cost more than BD50? Also worth noting is the following summary from a long AVS forum thread about TL51:
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1. TL51 and Hybrid disc 34/5 have been approved by the Forum.
2. Indications are that these will be backward compatible with Gen 1 and Gen 2 players
3. To reiterate there is no HD DVD hardware that these will not work with.
4. These can be produced on existing HD DVD lines
5. We can expect a TL51 title announcement next month
6. It's unknown if spinrate/bandwidth has been increased as part of this spec change
7. THOUSANDS of these discs have already been produced as part of testing
Can we stick to talking about this without any of you-know-who's vitriol? Bob9000 really got it right with his analysis, this thread would be a much better read if we could strip out all the nauseating arguments. The reason it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that a TL HD DVD disc could by produced at less cost than a BD50 is because TL HD DVD discs require a bonded 3rd layer. That really raises costs...period. Let's put it this way...we will ALL see soon. Plus, what real benefit are you expecting from TL 51GB on HD DVD anyway? The BANDWIDTH hasn't changed for HD DVD!  | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
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That first part of your response is not worth addressing in detail.
Of course it isn't. But that is because you made a statement you couldn't back up then tried to wiggle your way out of it. Since you couldn't do that, you have decided to ignore it in hopes nobody would notice. 
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Your second response isn't worth a more detailed response either, but I'll do it. I have PROVED the POSSIBILITY of Sony's possible prolonged support of Blu-ray in the event that it lost the format war. The fact was that Sony is STILL supporting UMD movies. Remember, this WHOLE situation is a "what if" scenario.
Keep telling yourself that. You can't prove a possibility. You can speculate or theorise, but you can't prove it because anything is possible. Can you prove that ANYTHING is possible? You just said a can't prove a possibility and then turn right around and say that anything is possible.  | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bob9000: Quote:
Terminator 3 was actually released onto HD DVD last September. Not sure why Warner doesn't release things onto both formats at the same time...Batman Begins, for example, is not available on Blu Ray yet. Its a shame, because it looks just glorious in HD. It's because Warner was/is doing what they can to give HD DVD an edge while being "neutral". It's ok, because titles like Batman Begins, V for Vendetta, Matrix Trilogy, Casablanca, Constantine, etc should sell AT LEAST 2 times better on Blu-ray. Since most were released so early in the HD lifecycle, it might do 4 to 6 times better on Blu-ray in some cases (especially with PCM soundtracks). | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ascended_Saiyan: Quote:
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That first part of your response is not worth addressing in detail.
Of course it isn't. But that is because you made a statement you couldn't back up then tried to wiggle your way out of it. Since you couldn't do that, you have decided to ignore it in hopes nobody would notice.
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Your second response isn't worth a more detailed response either, but I'll do it. I have PROVED the POSSIBILITY of Sony's possible prolonged support of Blu-ray in the event that it lost the format war. The fact was that Sony is STILL supporting UMD movies. Remember, this WHOLE situation is a "what if" scenario.
Keep telling yourself that. You can't prove a possibility. You can speculate or theorise, but you can't prove it because anything is possible.
Can you prove that ANYTHING is possible? You just said a can't prove a possibility and then turn right around and say that anything is possible. No, I can't prove that anything is possible. I made a statement, I didn't say that I had proof that anything is possible. Let me flip this around on you. Sony did not support Beta when VHS became the standard. Based on your logic, I just proved that it is possible that Sony will NOT support Blu-ray if it loses. If I have proven my statement, your opposite statement can't be true. If it isn't true, then you didn't prove anything. Fortunately for you, I did not prove anything. What I did was speculate on a possible ouotcome based on past actions. Because there are so many factors involved, it can't be proven. Please tell me you really aren't this thick.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
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Not sure why Warner doesn't release things onto both formats at the same time...Batman Begins, for example, is not available on Blu Ray yet.
The reason commonly given is that Blu-ray can't support the same slate of bonus features found on the HD DVD versions at this time. They're waiting for BD 1.1 profile players to become available so they can add the picture-in-picture bonus material. The only other solution is to do like they did with 300 and simply drop some of the bonus stuff from the Blu-ray version.
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Its a shame, because it looks just glorious in HD.
Yes it does. I just watched it last weekend. That's Warner's excuse...we're waiting for 1.1 profile players. Fox and New Line aren't waiting for them. Fox has already announced titles that are have features for Profile 2.0 players. | | | To err is human...
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,127 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
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That first part of your response is not worth addressing in detail.
Of course it isn't. But that is because you made a statement you couldn't back up then tried to wiggle your way out of it. Since you couldn't do that, you have decided to ignore it in hopes nobody would notice.
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Your second response isn't worth a more detailed response either, but I'll do it. I have PROVED the POSSIBILITY of Sony's possible prolonged support of Blu-ray in the event that it lost the format war. The fact was that Sony is STILL supporting UMD movies. Remember, this WHOLE situation is a "what if" scenario.
Keep telling yourself that. You can't prove a possibility. You can speculate or theorise, but you can't prove it because anything is possible.
Can you prove that ANYTHING is possible? You just said a can't prove a possibility and then turn right around and say that anything is possible.
No, I can't prove that anything is possible. I made a statement, I didn't say that I had proof that anything is possible.
Let me flip this around on you. Sony did not support Beta when VHS became the standard. Based on your logic, I just proved that it is possible that Sony will NOT support Blu-ray if it loses. If I have proven my statement, your opposite statement can't be true. If it isn't true, then you didn't prove anything.
Fortunately for you, I did not prove anything. What I did was speculate on a possible ouotcome based on past actions. Because there are so many factors involved, it can't be proven.
Please tell me you really aren't this thick. You seem to be...that thick. Now you are trying to introduce a new argument because I called out your so called logic. On top of that, your "new" argument is a 20+ year old argument.  I gave you a far more current situation. This one is finished already. Just let it go. | | | To err is human...
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