Just curious whether this release is a box set. It's for the Princess Diaries/Princess Diaries 2 double feature Blu-ray set and is laid out as such:

Disc 1 - Princess Diaries/Princess Diaries 2 Blu-ray
Disc 2 - Princess Diaries DVD
Disc 3 - Princess Diaries 2 DVD

Right now, it's in the system with PD1/PD2 Blu-ray as the parent profile and the 2 DVDs as the child. Question is, should the PD1/PD2 Blu-ray also be a child profile as well even though both movies are on one disc?

Just curious.

A box set. Rules do say any release with more then one movie. So it qualifies. Going by the title of the set you gave us I do not see it being a bonus movie deal. Not like it is set up to sell one movie and giving the other as a bonus. You said it was a double feature.... so it would be a box set.

On the BD... both movies on one side of a disc I take it? If it is a duel sided disc it would be broken down as well.

My opinion is it should be like a traditional box set and not like a BD/DVD combo.

But that's me

But this is a Blu-ray/DVD Combo set.  If the two films were on different discs, I would submit it as a Box Set with Bonus Feature films added to each individual child Profile.  Meaning...

PD/PD2 Boxset
|-PD BD
  |-PD DVD
|-PD2 BD
  |-PD2 DVD

Since it can't be done that way, because the individual films are on the same disc, I believe it should be done as a single profile with child profiles for the two DVDs.

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But this is a Blu-ray/DVD Combo set.  If the two films were on different discs, I would submit it as a Box Set with Bonus Feature films added to each individual child Profile.  Meaning...

PD/PD2 Boxset
|-PD BD
  |-PD DVD
|-PD2 BD
  |-PD2 DVD

Since it can't be done that way, because the individual films are on the same disc, I believe it should be done as a single profile with child profiles for the two DVDs.

The rule that allows for BD/DVD combos is written based on the same film.  Not films.  It seems to me that the rule is being interpreted to be

"Sets containing the same disc content on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile."


I think it sets a bad precident to open it up like that and will leave the door open to more and more exceptions.  By placing it NOT as a box set it is stretching the rule for BD/DVD combo's too far in my opinion.  Now if Ken agrees to that stretch then that is different,  But I think the way it is now it is stretching the rule too far without his input.

It is technically a BD/DVD combo set, but for multiple films.  Meaning that the multiple films have both the BD and DVD content.  Just because the BD content is on one disc and not two does not alter the fact it is multiple films.

And about the opinion that if they were on separte BD's it should look like this:

PD/PD2 Boxset
|-PD BD
  |-PD DVD
|-PD2 BD
  |-PD2 DVD

I think that is wrong there if all 4 discs are in the same package.  The only way I think the example above would be valid is if you had two separate BD cases,  Each holding the BD and DVD for each film.  But if all 4 are in the same case it would have to be.  Hence being a box set of 2 separate BD/DVD combo sets

But if each are not in separate packaging (and 2 BD's) in my opinion it would look like this.

PD/PD2 Boxset
|-PD BD
|-PD DVD
|-PD2 BD
|-PD2 DVD

Now I can see both sides.  I have my opinion, you have yours.

But I think you would agree we need Ken to chime in since the interpretations could go both ways.

If any of you all know Ken well enough to ask him to pop in here and look at this please do so.  It ultimately does not matter who's opinion he chooses.  But I thinks he needs to weigh in.

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But this is a Blu-ray/DVD Combo set.  If the two films were on different discs, I would submit it as a Box Set with Bonus Feature films added to each individual child Profile.  Meaning...

PD/PD2 Boxset
|-PD BD
  |-PD DVD
|-PD2 BD
  |-PD2 DVD

Since it can't be done that way, because the individual films are on the same disc, I believe it should be done as a single profile with child profiles for the two DVDs.

Agree with the martian here and since the DVD bonus children are strictly optional and personally I never use them I would treat it as a standard BD combo with two movies on the same disc.

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you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile."

Notice the rules say may, not must or should.

But I can certainly see both ways of the argument. IMO the DVD bonus child was a quick fix for a problem that was never anticipated before BD and HD DVD and so it will never work to complete satisfaction.

Agree with the Martian and KinoNiki.

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If it is a duel sided disc it would be broken down as well.

Does these even exist? DVD, yes, but BD?

I have no idea as I never had a BR player to know. But it wouldn't surprise me. If not yet... in before too long.

There was attempts early on in HD-DVD to have flippers with the HD-DVD on one side and DVD on the other.  I believe Warner tried it with a few BD releases but it got a great deal of push back and it did not really take hold.

But since a BD can hold 50GB as opposed to DVD which holds 8.43 it may be a while before they bother with them.