The rules state you need to use the credits from the films.

Yep, take the cast (and crew) from the credits.

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My colleagues have provided the answer. It is hardly ever appropriate to go anywhere but the film, certainly not the credit block, imdb not any other third party source. Read and follow the rules and all will be well.

"If I'm reading this right, you were trying to submit a profile that was not yet in the database and not yet released, or at least you didn't have the dvd with you. If this is correct, than what you submit is supposed to be bare bones."

No you are not reading this right. I have the Blue Ray. I was only the first to contribute it on DVD profiler. And yes i can see The Crew at the end of the movie. But can i really just write this? That gives DVD profiler no evidence of that is right what i am writing.

But ok the crew at the ending at the movie is the same as what i found at IMDB. So i will contribute it again and write i found it at the endning at the movie :D

2dracula2 you do it again thats Why you blocked me when i tell you that you not can youse IMDB. . Contribute the start of the movie and the end. Read this.

Crew and Cast
Take Crew Credits from the film credits only; list names exactly as they are in the credits. Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead. 

Use the "Credited As" field where the person's name differs from the credited name.

List individual credits only, not company name credits. Exception: If a company name heads a group of crew, use the Group divider to enter the company name.

To determine whether to enter the name directly as credited, or to use the "Credited As" field, use the Credit Lookup tool.

It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT. If there is a dispute over whether the credit references the same person, documentation may be necessary. However, in most cases it is not required.

The inclusion of CLT results in contribution notes is strongly desired but not required. Note: In the case of uncertainty, leaving this out may cause the contribution to be declined.

Do not enter union/guild affiliations, such as A.C.E. and B.O.E.

Military rank/affiliation or other honorifics should be included in the 'Credited As' field. Example: a credit of "Cpl. John Smith, USMC" should be entered as First Name: "John", Last Name "Smith", Credited As "Cpl. John Smith, USMC"

Enter birth years only when necessary to differentate between two actors with the same name. When submitting a contribution that adds a new birth year to one or more credits, list justification in the contribution notes.

Cast and crew images are not contributed with the profile.

Group names of crew members together within each role available and list in exactly the same order credited. The table below gives each of the crew roles available within DVD Profiler. For each category, include only those people credited with the roles listed in the "Role" and "Credited As" columns. If someone is not credited with one of these roles (or direct translations of these roles), do not include them in the Crew section.

NOTE: Crew entered with a role of "Other" will NOT upload as part of your contribution, and are for your local use only. Crew with a standard role selected will contribute without the Custom Role, if one is entered.

Yes, the Cast and Crew may be the same, but is it spelt the same? Are the Roles the same? IMDB tends to have a vast amount of, for want of a better phrase, 'made-up' information. If you take the information purely from the closing credits of the movie, you can be sure that your information is by the rules here.

You should never lie about taking the information from the end credits if you didn't. We have discovered many people doing this over the years and it is not helping the community to put this information into the Invelos database. It screws up the Credit Lookup Tool, it often fails to connect Cast and Crew properly and it's just plain unhelpful.

Onve you've actually audited a few films that have old imdb info against the real credits, you will see how bad it is.

Besides mis-spelling I see people completely invented for imdb profiles that do not exist on any movie credits and can't be found through Google (except the imdb link). Sound is never right, not once have all the sound credits been correct on imdb Ive seen, at least one will be wrong. What they call visual effects and what we use are completely different and will get mixed up. I often see make-up artist credited as coustume designer, it's just a happy funtimeing mess which is why we are so adimant against it being used anymore. There's also the fact that some bad info from imdb is on purpose, kinda a way for them to see what other databases "borrow" from them. If you (or invelos) don't pay a royality, they will threaten and sue this site for seeing these traps in use.

Nothing good can come from imdb. They are a great quick reference, but must not be used for cast and crew info, that has to come from the film credits. Feel free to use imdb info locally or as a starting base, but compare to the real credits if you do. Then you'll start seeing how many things are wrong also.

The inaccuracies in imdb, many of them grossly inaccurate are exactly shy it was decided to use the data from the horse''a mouth as it were. The film credits only