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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Now as you see the top media banner does read "Blu-ray 3D". However given that there is "3D" in addition at the top gives credence that “3D” be the edition as Ken’s last clarifications. However there is a as you all see here is a “Blu-ray Disc” logo in the middle of the 3D. And I am not sure that is enough to make the edition “Blu-ray 3D” as opposed to just “3D” What do you all think?  Now I did just put in a cotribution for this profile. However I did not chaneg the tite yest since I was not sure. If the concensus is to change it I will add it to the contribution. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | The image is a little on the small side for me to make out everything on the banner... but as far as I can see it and going by the thread where Ken said how it should be done... I would say no edition at all on that one. But as I said... I am having a hard time reading everything up top of that image. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have this title and it's just listing all the formats (Blu-ray 3D + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
I have this title and it's just listing all the formats (Blu-ray 3D + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy) If the formats are in the edition or title field... that is not right per Rules. Rules Quote: Quote:
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The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition, Director's Cut). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.
Do not enter media types (such as "Blu-Ray + DVD + Digital Copy") into the edition or title field. See the last sentence I put in bold. Of course locally that is fine... but it can't be uploaded to main database like that. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | But Scooter was talking specifically about the big "3D" at the top and IMO should be allowed to distinguish it from the other Blu-ray release (same content just w/o the 3D BD disc). |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
But Scooter was talking specifically about the big "3D" at the top and IMO should be allowed to distinguish it from the other Blu-ray release (same content just w/o the 3D BD disc). Exactly The blue banner has the "(Blu-ray 3D + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy" But slapped in the middle is a big silver "3D" really on top of the media banner, in the middle. So I do think 3D should be the edition. The current edition is "Blu-ray 3D" which I am questioning. I am thinking it needs changed to just 3D. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Going by how I read what Ken said HERE it don't seem to be mentioned as any type of edition. So going by that I don't believe it is allowed. Though like I said in my first reply I can't really see that section very good on the image provided to be 100% sure. Of course Ken also said that this is something he updated for the next version. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Scooter1836: Quote:
Quoting TheMovieman:
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But Scooter was talking specifically about the big "3D" at the top and IMO should be allowed to distinguish it from the other Blu-ray release (same content just w/o the 3D BD disc).
Exactly The blue banner has the "(Blu-ray 3D + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy" But slapped in the middle is a big silver "3D" really on top of the media banner, in the middle.
So I do think 3D should be the edition.
The current edition is "Blu-ray 3D" which I am questioning. I am thinking it needs changed to just 3D. That'd work too. Personally I would vote yes. If the next DVDP update includes 3D Blu-ray we won't need it, but for the time it'd be good to have just to distinguish it (which, IMO, is the primary intention for the field). | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Quoting TheMovieman:
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I have this title and it's just listing all the formats (Blu-ray 3D + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy)
If the formats are in the edition or title field... that is not right per Rules.
Rules Quote:
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Edition
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition, Director's Cut). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.
Do not enter media types (such as "Blu-Ray + DVD + Digital Copy") into the edition or title field.
See the last sentence I put in bold. Of course locally that is fine... but it can't be uploaded to main database like that. I think TheMovieman was just pointing out what is in the blue banner. I realized that rule which is why I was questioning that the current profile has an edition of "Blu-ray 3D" as opposed to just "3D" which is overlaying the media banner. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Going by Ken's clarification I honestly believe that just 3D would be against what he said as well. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm with addicted on this one. It's a bit of a grey area taking into account Ken's clarification, but it looks closer to the example for no edition IMO. |
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| Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,275 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yeah, if we're getting a '3D Blu-Ray' format option in the next version there's not much point putting that information in until we can. | | | | Last edited: by GreyHulk |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Going by Ken's clarification I honestly believe that just 3D would be against what he said as well. Agreed...since it is just the 3D Blu-ray 'logo', it seems to fall under the "no edition" example. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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Going by Ken's clarification I honestly believe that just 3D would be against what he said as well.
Agreed...since it is just the 3D Blu-ray 'logo', it seems to fall under the "no edition" example. I am sorry that big silver 3D looks nothing like the trademarked bly-ray 3D logo. It is a big silver 3D and the attached a Blu-ray Disc logo over it. To bring attention that it is a 3D release. This is the Blu-ray 3D logo that is on every BD-3D package and/or disc  there is one other trade marked variant that has Bly-ray and 3D in the same font but they are side by side. So they can be more easily imprinted on the blu cases. Lookingfor a link to that one. But if you were to put 3D on the same line as Blu-Ray in the above logo that is what it looks like. If that very same large 3D was not up top and in the middle of the package, people would think differntly, but since it overlays (and not part of) the media banner it is in question. | | | | Last edited: by Scooter1836 |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | here is a page htat displays both trademarked versions of the BD-3D logos that are used in every bd-3d release.
http://hd.engadget.com/2010/01/06/blu-ray-3d-logo-unveiled/
What is there at the top of this one is not even close to calling it the BD-3D logo |
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| Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is a typical grey area. If you look ath the "no edition" example that Ken did agree to  This clealy is the media banner up top. Nothing overlayed at all. In addition it is clear it is using the trademarked logo. So this is no question that there would be no edition. Where thegrey areas exist in my mind is in cases like this where there is a large 3D above the tittle that overlays the media banner and is in no way the 3D logo. I sau overlays because the blue sections do contain all media type descriptions including (Blu-ray 3D + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy). They overlayed large 3D is really overlayed on top of the blue medua banner. |
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