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Question about Birth Years and bands/groups
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
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While doing a CLT search I found that both a music group and an actor shares the same name.

This situation isn't covered by the rules, but they are clearly two different "people" and since music groups/bands are formed I was wondering if the year that the group was formed could be entered as the Birth Year for the music group?

And should this be entered as a rule update request?
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There doesn't need to be confusion, since the format for the actor would be First Name/Middle Name (if any)/Last Name, whereas the whole name for the group goes into the First Name field.

If a BY is needed for clarification, I would suggest to use that for the actor only and leave the music group blank, to avoid discussions/conflicts (which are the same in these forums) about what to use.
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But the birth year for the actor isn't known.

So that's why I asked about the musical group.

Also it's just one name, so parsing doesn't work in this case.
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But the birth year for the actor isn't known.

So that's why I asked about the musical group.

Also it's just one name, so parsing doesn't work in this case.



So what is the name?
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I was gonna guess this was about Alice Cooper until the one wrod name came up, now I'm lost.
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Queen?
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Queen?


Naw, no one was named or went by "Queen" in the band.
I'm wondering if it's maybe a rapper, although "band" wouldn't really fit for that.

Meat Loaf maybe? Can't think of too many where a band member shares the name of the band, besides The J. Geils Band or something like that. Alice Cooper is still my best guess, but I feel it's wrong.
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i.m.d.b. has one or more "Queen"s that have no relation to the band, the OP did not imply such a connection.
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Styx.
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Why you don't use a divider and list the group members in it. It isn't like it was an obscure unknow band that was formed for a movie purpose...
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i.m.d.b. has one or more "Queen"s that have no relation to the band, the OP did not imply such a connection.


Ahh ha, I misread again and you are certainly right. Without connection, it could be anyone or anything pretty much. Com'on Cubby, end our torment and tell us who started the thread!
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I did.

The name is Styx.

According to the CLT there is several "Hidden Titles" as well as two titles linked to this name.
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I looked it up and Styx seems to be the name of an adult film star, as well as the band.  I still don't think we can use a BY though.
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I can honestly say I would have never, ever guessed Styx if I had a million years to try a new band each day.
Makes sense it would be an adult film star.

Speaking of adult film stars popping up all over, I just found out Michele Watley from "Coming to America" (one of the 'bather girls') is actually Midori.

Why not use a BY for the band Styx? Just use the year they were formed, or did I miss something again and BY's can only be for people? Band changed name to Styx in 1972 according to the internet. From what I can find avout the porn guy, he's around 22. A 2010 acticle says he was 21 at the time, so his BY is probably 1989 or 1990.
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Quoting bigdaddyhorse:
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Why not use a BY for the band Styx? Just use the year they were formed, or did I miss something again and BY's can only be for people?


Maybe because it's not a valid Birth Year? Using ficticious BYs is fine in your local but not for the invelos database.
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