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I don't get it... How stupid is the school system around here!?!
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Here recently Brittany has been reading the book Angela's Ashes in school. This morning I had to sign a form allowing her to see the movie... because it is an R rated movie and they need permission from the parents.

So far no problem. Makes sense. I of course sign it for her. I admit I didn't read the paper as she told me what it is and I can more then easily trust her. But then Britt points out something that really has me scratching my head!...

I have signed a form allowing her to see an R rated movie (Brittany is 16 BTW). But what are they doing? Even with all the parents having to sign a release for the kids to see it... they are skipping all the parts that makes it an R rated movie!

So my question is what is the point of having us sign for them to see it... if they aren't actually going to see it anyway!?! Can anyone out there explain this to me? Am I the one that is out there... or does this sound a bit nuts to you as well?
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Sounds to me like they're just covering their collective a$$es just in case.
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Sounds to me like they're just covering their collective a$$es just in case.

Yeah it sounds like that to me as well.
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Maybe so... but when I read that I just had to laugh... seems to me "What's the sense then!?!" 
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CYA indeed.

At least they are communicating with you properly as a parent; I have heard many stories of the opposite, over far more serious matters.
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True... but it even said on the paper that it is rated R for Mild Language and Sexual Situations. It don't sound like there is all that much to worry about. Especially if the kids have signed consent from their parents.
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I'd have to say this is rather dumb. Maybe I'm too extreme, but if was me, I would advise my kid to tell the school she doesn't care about watching half a movie. Either complete or not at all.
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The school can't really win here.  If they do show the movie uncut, even with the permission forms, somewhere out there some parent is going to go all 700 Club on them and broadcast how the public school system is decaying the values of our youth.
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I'm guessing the teacher fought the administration and decided this was better than nothing.
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Brittany told the teacher what I said. And she pretty much ignored the stuff I brought up. But did say that it is "ALSO" do to being so long and such short classes. In my eyes that just means watching on multiple days.

But basically everything I brought up the teacher ignored and changed the subject. 
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Sounds to me like they're just covering their collective a$$es just in case.


That seems to be a full time job for vocations today.
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Hi,

I'm not sure how stupid the school system is but feel confident that lawyers, detectives, district attorneys, judges, religious leaders, and other guardians of morality are licking their lips.

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CYA is the current state of all public schools... teaching, books, math, language run way behind prohibitions on all "educators'" agendas. At my granddaughters' last school the gates are unlocked after classes start (emergency exit routes needed, by state law), then locked five minutes before classes end. They are all supposed to be simultaniously unlocked exactly at 3 pm, but only one guard has the keys, and she often forgets to unlock one or two gates, especially on rainy days, leaving students and their parents/grandparents/guardians on opposite sides of a locked gate with no shelter for either. It worked even more poorly the day she left the gate to the kindergarten classrooms locked for a long time after classes ended. The kindergarteners cannot be released from their classrooms without a guardian (those signed off by parents/guadians at the beginning of the school year), so they were forced to remain in the classes long after the release time. All this in the name of protecting the students. Not one student has ever been abducted or molested by outsiders in any school in this district... ever... (only by teachers, janitors, and other employees and volunteers) but the schools consider themselves the protectors of the students against, what... their families? I reminded the principal (and the school board) that they are our children, not theirs, and that the students' families ought to have access to the kids anytime. That the school teachers, administrators, janitors, aides, etc. have a higher rate of child abuse than the children's families. Yet the lockouts continue... Our kids are learning systematic stupidity, and not reading, writing, nor arithmetic.
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Check this out:

This is what it took to get an 8th grade education in 1895...

Remember when grandparents and great-grandparents stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out.
Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?

This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina , Kansas , USA . It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley
Genealogical Society and Library in Salina , and reprinted by the Salina Journal. 

    8th Grade Final Exam: Salina , KS - 1895
                      Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of 'lie,''play,' and 'run.'
5. Define case; illustrate each case.
6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

                                        Arithmetic (Time,1 hour 15 minutes)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. Deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. Wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs. For tare?
4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven
months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. Coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent..
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. Long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt

                                    U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus 
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States 
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas 
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton , Bell , Lincoln , Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.

                  Orthography (Time, one hour)
                    [Do we even know what this is??]
1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' (HUH?)
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis-mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card,
ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane , vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

                  Geography (Time, one hour)
1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America 
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia , Odessa , Denver , Manitoba , Hecla , Yukon , St. Helena,
Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco 
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.

Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.
Gives the saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a
whole new meaning, doesn't it?
Also shows you how poor our education system has become.
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Quoting Srehtims:
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Check this out:

This is what it took to get an 8th grade education in 1895...

Remember when grandparents and great-grandparents stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out.
Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?

This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina , Kansas , USA . It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley
Genealogical Society and Library in Salina , and reprinted by the Salina Journal. 

    8th Grade Final Exam: Salina , KS - 1895
                      Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of 'lie,''play,' and 'run.'
5. Define case; illustrate each case.
6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

                                        Arithmetic (Time,1 hour 15 minutes)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. Deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. Wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs. For tare?
4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven
months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. Coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent..
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. Long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt

                                    U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus 
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States 
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas 
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton , Bell , Lincoln , Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.

                  Orthography (Time, one hour)
                    [Do we even know what this is??]
1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' (HUH?)
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis-mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card,
ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane , vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

                  Geography (Time, one hour)
1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America 
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia , Odessa , Denver , Manitoba , Hecla , Yukon , St. Helena,
Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco 
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth.

Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete.
Gives the saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a
whole new meaning, doesn't it?
Also shows you how poor our education system has become.



So what grade did you get on it.
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http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.asp

This is pretty much my reaction. That math is barely sixth grade by today's standards. There's no algebra, which is eighth-grade material these days. It only seems difficult because of archaic units. The history unit doesn't seem especially hard except for the fact that some events have been re-emphasized. (The Civil War, only a few decades past, would have been a much bigger deal before the world wars, Korea, Vietnam, etc.)
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