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Episode dividers when multiply seasons present.
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What do you all think we should use for episode titles when there are multiply seasons on the same set?
I think the current way is the first one, but its is a little bit bad, since you cant see from an actors movie list in which seasons it was in. Also scrolling the credits list is harder, since you dont always see what season you are on at the time.
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Use child profiles and then this isn't a problem.
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Use "1. episode name (with another divider that states its Season 1)" unless the set itself uses another numbering scheme. Then per rules you would use the same numbering scheme that the DVD release uses.
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Episodes names are often too long for the field as it is, so including "Season 1" twenty times is not a good idea.
If a parent profile with multiple seasons exists (or sometimes a child profile with more than one season), I would use one extra divider "Season x" in front of the other episode dividers.
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I would go:
1.1 - Episode name
1.2 - Episode name
2.1 - Episode name

Though I would vote yes also on what Addicted and Staid have said.
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The problem when using a different divider for the season, is that DVD profiler doesn't show this in the actors list, so its hard to tell in which season s/hes in. Also when scrolling the credits, its harder to find a specific episode in a season, when you cant see in which season you're scrolling ATM. See image below.

Personally i would like what samuelrichardscott said.

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Personally I prefer something short and easy, like 1x01, 2x12 etc. 

But I wouldn't have a problem to do it another way...
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As the rules are written now I would vote no to anything other then...

1. Episode Name
2. Episode Name
3. Episode Name
...

As the rules state to use that format unless they are written differently in the set...

Rules Quote:
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Complete Series/Season & Anthologies of Episodes:

Enter Cast and Crew for each episode using standard rules, and insert dividers to separate each episode's credit list from the others. Do not list Cast and Crew outside of the dividers even if they are credited in all episodes.

Enter the episode number and title in the divider that marks the beginning of that episode's credit list. The divider should be formatted as "1. Episode Title", or "Episode 1" if no title is available.

Take the episode title from the episode itself, or from elsewhere on the DVD or DVD packaging, exactly as shown. If all episode titles are entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead. If the episodes are listed with quotes around each title, exclude the quotes.

If the DVD or DVD packaging specifically numbers the episodes, use that number in the divider. Otherwise, episodes are to be numbered sequentially in the order that they appear on the DVD(s) in the set, with the number sequence carrying over from disc to disc. Do not number non-episodic features such as movies or alternate cuts unless they are given specific numbers on the DVD or DVD packaging.


See the part I put in bold.

So I would suggest if you want anything other then that... to bring it to the Rules Committee forum and see if you can get the support and get Ken to put a change or exception into the rules for it.
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So I would suggest if you want anything other then that... to bring it to the Rules Committee forum and see if you can get the support and get Ken to put a change or exception into the rules for it.


I'm looking something quicker then a rule change in 2017

Besides, using season dividers is also against rules. Well not against, but not by the rules either. Going strictly by the rules the first episode of e.g. Battlestar Galactica would be "1. 33" and the last one "75. Daybreak (Parts 2 & 3)".
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Putting 1.1, 2.1, 2.5 IMO would not be breaking the above rule from how I interpret it.
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Quoting whispering:
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Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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So I would suggest if you want anything other then that... to bring it to the Rules Committee forum and see if you can get the support and get Ken to put a change or exception into the rules for it.


I'm looking something quicker then a rule change in 2017


But all contributions must be per Rules... and even you said yourself (in the OP) you believed that is how the rules tells us to do it. So if that is what you believe the rules say what are you looking for other then a rule change? The only person that can change the rule is Ken

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Besides, using season dividers is also against rules. Well not against, but not by the rules either. Going strictly by the rules the first episode of e.g. Battlestar Galactica would be "1. 33" and the last one "75. Daybreak (Parts 2 & 3)".


The Battlestar Galactica set I have at least... each season set has it's own UPC... and numbering. Maybe for the parent profile for the complete series set... I don't know since I don't have cast/crew at that level anyway (nor would I). I only have cast/crew at disc level. So I believe what I have at least is per Rules.
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Putting 1.1, 2.1, 2.5 IMO would not be breaking the above rule from how I interpret it.


With the rules saying to use format "1. Episode Title"  I whole-heartedly believe it does be break the rules as it is adding more to it then the rules say. I could see it now... having a season one set saying "1.1 Episode Title" not what the rules say and not needed. And yes I have seen people try for just a single season set.

It would be different if they had an exception for complete series sets. But there is none. Which is why I said take it to the rules committee forum and try to get the rule changed or an exception put in to the rules for complete/multiple series sets.

Until then I would always vote no to such a thing.
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Often, TV sets will have an episode guide booklet...

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Take the episode title from the episode itself, or from elsewhere on the DVD or DVD packaging, exactly as shown.


and often they will say 1.1 etc etc so in in my opinion it will be allowed under this rule.
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And I never said any different as I said if the package is numbered differently then you use what is on the package.

See...

Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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As the rules are written now I would vote no to anything other then...

1. Episode Name
2. Episode Name
3. Episode Name
...

As the rules state to use that format unless they are written differently in the set...

....


But that can't be used if it isn't written that way on the set you are profiling. If they are not numbered another way then we use the format in the rules (1. Episode Title).

THAT is what I said I would vote no to.

In other words. If someone submitted anything other then "1. Episode Title" what I would do is pull out the set and see if the set uses what they used. If so I would vote yes. If it is not using the same numbering I would vote no.
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The Battlestar Galactica set I have at least... each season set has it's own UPC... and numbering. Maybe for the parent profile for the complete series set... I don't know since I don't have cast/crew at that level anyway (nor would I). I only have cast/crew at disc level. So I believe what I have at least is per Rules.


My BSG collection is a limited edition one, so all discs are inside a metal case. Only 1 UPC. When you go disc level, its easy to use "1. episode title", since the profile title tells which season it is. I am specifically talking about the parent profile when theres multiply seasons in one profile.
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Where I don't have that set I can't say... is there numbered episodes on the discs or in a booklet or anything? If so you use that numbering per Rules. If not then I would only submit or vote yes to episodes "1. Title" – "75. Title" as I believe that is what the rules state.

But where I don't own the same set I can't say one way or the other for sure... and of course can't do anything about it if the wrong (per my reading of the Rules) is in the database now.
Pete
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