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| Registered: May 18, 2007 |  Posts: 389 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've come across this designation:
Creative Make-up by
and wondered if it would be:
Make-up Artist or Make-up Effects by the current rules. |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | None ...
... by the current rules. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | It depends on your point of view. This is a Make-up credit so you have to aks yourself, does the addition of the word 'Creative' nulify the Make-up credit? Some say yes, some say no. I say no and would have no problem adding this. If there are other 'normal' make-up credits, I would put it under Make-up Effects. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
IThis is a Make-up credit so you have to aks yourself, does the addition of the word 'Creative' nulify the Make-up credit? Some say yes, some say no. Crew roles list in the rules say no... Rules : For each category, include only those people credited with the roles listed in the "Role" and "Credited As" columns. If someone is not credited with one of these roles (or direct translations of these roles), do not include them in the Crew section. | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Looks like a custom role to me. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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IThis is a Make-up credit so you have to aks yourself, does the addition of the word 'Creative' nulify the Make-up credit? Some say yes, some say no.
Crew roles list in the rules say no... In your opinion, not mine. In my opinion, the addition of the word 'Creative' doesn't change the fact that 'Make-up by' is a valid crew role. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | For what it's worth, when I do crew I'm looking for the key person(s) involved. I want the costume designer, not the wardrobe drones. I want the makeup designer, not the general staff. If I can discern who these people are within the context of the credits, then that's what I go with regardless of the wording used.
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | How about Tattoo art by. I would consider that as creative Make-up. So it would be ok to contribute? Make-up artist or make-up effects. Open 1 door outside what the rules specify and then the next person wants to open another door, next thing you know, chaos. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
How about Tattoo art by. I would consider that as creative Make-up. So it would be ok to contribute? Make-up artist or make-up effects. Open 1 door outside what the rules specify and then the next person wants to open another door, next thing you know, chaos. I don't see Tattoo Art by in the credit chart. I do, however, see Make-up by. While Creative Make-up specifies the type of make-up, it is still make-up...I mean the actual credit from the chart is in the credit given. Not quite the same as something that isn't in the chart. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | So if the credit on screen was Creative Make-up (Tattoos) by.... That would be OK. |
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 | | Posts: 389 |
| | Posted: | | | | So which is it?
Make-up Artist
Make-up Effects
or none |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
In your opinion, not mine. In my opinion, the addition of the word 'Creative' doesn't change the fact that 'Make-up by' is a valid crew role. It is not "my" opinion. It is the "opinion" of the list in the rules. Is "creative make-up" in the list ? | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting surfeur51:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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IThis is a Make-up credit so you have to aks yourself, does the addition of the word 'Creative' nulify the Make-up credit? Some say yes, some say no.
Crew roles list in the rules say no...
In your opinion, not mine. In my opinion, the addition of the word 'Creative' doesn't change the fact that 'Make-up by' is a valid crew role. This is how I would have done it, but the crew chart has especially called the jobs, so why, when not limiting to those? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Is "creative make-up" in the list ? I have already addressed this point...three times now...and feel I have been pretty clear so I have to believe that was a rhetorical question. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
This is how I would have done it, but the crew chart has especially called the jobs, so why, when not limiting to those? Because there is no way that the rules could come up with every possible form of that credit. If the credit were 'Make-up Effects Artist', would you still advocate that it be left out because the crew chart doesn't include the word 'artist'? I wouldn't and, in my opinion, this is no different. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Because there is no way that the rules could come up with every possible form of that credit. But the rules are made like this. They ask us to follow them stupidly, and each attempt to do intelligent things is considered against rules (at least that is the opinion of the majority of users after several threads asking to put some common sense on what we enter). So intelligent data is strictly restricted to local entries. Online data is the world of "exactly as on screen" even if we do not like errors or missing data. | | | | Images from movies |
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