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•The inner sleeve may be used in lieu of the front cover as long as the only difference is the exclusion of sticker(s) or rating overlays.

Pending contribution 4-006680-057484 - Apocalypse Now: Full Disclosure Deluxe Edition - German release.

I have contributed corresponding the rules and got already 8 no votes, because the packaging is more beautiful without the fsk logo which is on an seperate paper which covers a small part of the front.
The image without the paper is the same but the text is not on the same position and so its against the rules.

I have no problem to contribute without the rating and paperovelay, but in the past I got many no votes for violating the rules, because of other text positon without logo.

So what should I contribute. We need clear statements for this Rating-logo problem in Germany.

I have 688 accepted image contribution, but in future I will not contribute further images when I always get no-votes for both possabilities. Whats right? Whats better? What will be accepted?

In the past I always contributed the better images without logo and I got many no-votes from guys who love the rules. So I tried to only contribute images which are not against the rules, which means only contribute every third or fourth movie (also when exisitng online images are much worse than mine), because of missing EAN (UPC) on backside images and small changes on front side (like exisitng problem), because I only scan the cover without rating-logo which is often without UPC on the backside.

So what should I do?
I'm really ***** (use a word you would use).

I always go by this:
- If the missing logo is the only change, contribute it without rating logo.
- If there are also other changes, contribute it with rating logo. Make also a scan of the alternate cover, which I mostly use in my local (lock it) and contribute it here (with a note in the contribution notes, for the other users)

Richi:

The answer is toi follow the Rules, not what you want to do. What you do with your local data and images is up to you, but you must follow the Rules as it pertains to Contributions. This is done to create a uniform database as much as possible for Online purposes, as opposed to allowing users to go off in their own directions and do whatever they wish. There used to be all sorts of headaches with Online because users were doing THEIR own thing, we had one particular profile which was changed some 900+ times over 5 years as users battled to get their particular version of the profile in place.

Now can the Rules be changed, YES, but there is a forum for those discussions. It would be nice IF the Online could hold more than one set of images per UPC. But, realistically I do not see an inner piece of paper ever being used. The primary purpose for multiple images would be to allow for different images for the SAME UPC/EAN, which happens all too often as distributors will release the same UPC/EAN with different images.

@Winston

When I followed the rules for the profile mentioned above, I got 3 yes votes and 11 no-votes and they said that they like the cover without rating more and they said that this is not against the rules.
But many other said that it is against the rules.

"But, realistically I do not see an inner piece of paper ever being used"
In Germany nearly every release has an cover print on the opposite side of  the cover so that you can turn it arround and get a cover without rating. But sometimes this turnarround cover has a little bit arranged cover to take account of the place the rating-logo has used.
Also the release mentioned above has the rating logo on a paper which can be turned off, but the text is then aligned at an other position and so when we take the rule as mentioned in my first post, against the rules!
Thats the problem.
And many people say sometimes yes and sometimes no and its not clearly whats exactly right and many people dont know the exact rules.

@bbbb
I always use the cover. I maybe have described it wrong in english. In germany there are used turnaround covers und papers which can be pulled off for boxes and special editions, because we have really big rating-logos.

The problem that RichiLIVE has, is that he's trying to contribute the "complete" inner sleeve. Means Frontcover without FSK-logo and the matching back (which very often doesn't have the required EAN).

Sadly this is incorrect since Invelos nowadays wants to see custom (or better: non-existent) cover-combinations. Means: frontcover from inner sleeve (without FSK-logo) and backcover from outer sleeve (with EAN). This results in a database that gets more and more filled with fantasy-data and sometimes very confused contributors.

On the other hand you have voters that get an allergic reaction when they see the oversized FSK-logo and vote "No" no matter if the quality of the newly contributed scans is actually better than the existing.
For me this would be a clear abuse of the voting privilege, but that's only me, and I've given up here long ago.
Sometimes this strange principle gets even more perverted: More and more good scans (with FSK-logo) get replaced by inferior scans without ...

@ Silence_of_Lambs
Yes thats also a problem but not for the actual release, because its a box with a small stripe of paper and no turnarround cover.
My contribution was correct and according to the rules. But I got many no-votes because of the rating logo. I dont pulled of the paper, because then the cover wouldnt be the same.

@bbbbb
Mistake - maybe. I understand the people. I also have the covers without logo in my database, because it looks more beautiful, but the problem is that the rules are not clearly.

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Keep your personal likes and dislikes private.

I'm sorry but I disagree with this statement. There are only a few topics, such as politics, that are off limits; personal likes and dislikes are not one of them.

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Keep your personal likes and dislikes private.

I'm sorry but I disagree with this statement. There are only a few topics, such as politics, that are off limits; personal likes and dislikes are not one of them.

Not databasewise.

Actually, in this case, it isn't off limits as the rules specifically allow for this particular like.