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| Registered: September 6, 2007 |  Posts: 76 |
| | Posted: | | | | There's a question on a pending update where a user propose the scans of the discs labels as a cover for a boxset content (Alien ultimate bluray boxset italian edition EAN 8010312090264) i disagree because i think that covers for the child profiles should be the same as the main boxset. Note: single movies does not have a dedicated cover.
Who is right? Should the BD discs labels scans be accepted? Or as i says for a boxset child profiles missing a dedicated cover should be labeled with the main boxset cover art?
Please, advise. | | | | I can resist everything but temptation. | | | | Last edited: by locutus2k |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,741 |
| | Posted: | | | | It has to be a proper cover. If the discs are packed individually, these covers can be used. If not, the complete package package is to be used as cover. | | | Karsten
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  | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | These two rules come in place in this case:
1. "Images must be of the front and back only."
2. "Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules with one exception - Cover Images. If a film is individually packaged, use the cover images from that packaging."
As there are no individual covers the first rule comes in place. | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would (and have) vote no to any scans of the actual disc. The rules clearly says front and back covers only. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting locutus2k: Quote:
Who is right? You are. Quote:
Should the BD discs labels scans be accepted? No. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with those before me...scans of the disc are not allowed, they must be of the front and back of the box. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: October 11, 2007 | | Posts: 20 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi everybody. I'm the author of the posting locutus2k is referring to. There is one thing he missed: I entered the boxset with the alien's egg (8010312090783) not the one he said. This is a very particular case (not unique) where exactly the same discs are included in both box sets! So, why I should see in my collection the cover of another box set? Does not make sense at all! Furthermore, the main purpose of adding a cover image is to identify at a glance the movie you are looking for. If every movie has the same image the cover is no longer useful. Of course this is just my opinion but now you have all the elements to understand why I posted those images.  I think an exception should be added to the rule. | | | | Last edited: by CyberPaul |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CyberPaul: Quote:
This is a very particular case (not unique) where exactly the same discs are included in both box sets!
So, why I should see in my collection the cover of another box set? Does not make sense at all! Because the disc IDs will be exactly the same, that's the only way to do it. You can't have different images for different box sets, unfortunately. EDIT: Of course, for your local database, you can set it up any way you want it. But it can't be contributed. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Per Rules the online database keeps original release info in the main database. You should keep your images locally and lock your images so they do not get overwritten.
I for one would never support a rule to use the actual disc scans in any case. As I personally think it looks bad. I much rather see the image from the parent over again then a scan of the actual disc. Besides... what if the disc is a duel sided disc? Then you have nothing to scan. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: October 11, 2007 | | Posts: 20 |
| | Posted: | | | | Exactly!
This is why I suggest to use disc image in cases like this.
So both box sets can adopt it and nothing of strange will be in our collection. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | And how do you know that? How do you know if the image on the discs will be the same? Someone still will most likely have a different image then what they actually have. That is why it is so good that we have the ability to have things locally and be able to lock them. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: October 11, 2007 | | Posts: 20 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
EDIT: Of course, for your local database, you can set it up any way you want it. But it can't be contributed. Sure, but the database remains incosistent. Not a good thing. What if I had given my contribution before the normal box set? Who have the box set has to see the egg in its collection??  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would personally never want to see a scan of the disc label in the database. I think most people who don't like to see the box set cover repeated use some kind of official artwork like the film's theatrical poster. But again, this is strictly a local option and not for the online. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: October 11, 2007 | | Posts: 20 |
| | Posted: | | | | At least the rule should specify what to do in that case! As a matter of fact I have not broken the rule because this specific case is not mentioned  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CyberPaul: Quote:
What if I had given my contribution before the normal box set? Who have the box set has to see the egg in its collection?? If they share the same day of release, yes. But I don't know exactly how the discs are packaged inside the egg, isn't there some kind of other cover? | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CyberPaul: Quote:
At least the rule should specify what to do in that case!
As a matter of fact I have not broken the rule because this specific case is not mentioned Rules Quote: Quote:
Studios occasionally re-release titles with the same UPC, but with changed content – for example Cover Images, Case Type and Overview. All information in the main DVD Profiler database is to be for the Original Release version of the disc; do not contribute any information that is specific to a re-release. You can of course keep this re-release information in your local database profile, but do not contribute it to the main database. Cover Image Rules Quote: Quote:
If a title is re-released with the same UPC, but different cover images do not contribute the new images. This includes cases where a DVD was initially released in a slipcase, which was later removed. As explained in the introduction you may use your personal images in your local database, but they will not show online. Yes... your contribution does break the rules as you ARE replacing cover images of original releases with ones for a re-release. | | | | Pete |
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