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| | Posted: | | | | Jones and Steele with a divider would reflect the credits the best imho.
Also I'd include D. Mears.
On the second screencap, I'd just include the pupeteers. |
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| Registered: April 17, 2007 | | Posts: 771 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would include veryone before the stunt people, with a divider for Jones and Steele. I never enter puppeteers. | | |  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't see how you can use a divider for Jones and Steele as there isn't one in the credits. I would give them individual credits with multiple roles. I would also include Mears and Fitzgerald. I don't think the pupeteers are allowed as they are not included in the 'end credits' as defined by the rules. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,733 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I don't see how you can use a divider for Jones and Steele as there isn't one in the credits. Me neither. People really need to stop using dividers when their use really isn't called for... |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I would also include Mears and Fitzgerald. This is the one i was actually interested in Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I don't think the puppeteers are allowed as they are not included in the 'end credits' as defined by the rules. just a note on this, i have seen Puppeteers contributed that were in the crew list and even though I (and others) voted no to it the screener still approved it |
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| Registered: October 3, 2008 | | Posts: 260 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I don't see how you can use a divider for Jones and Steele as there isn't one in the credits. I would give them individual credits with multiple roles. I would also include Mears and Fitzgerald. I don't think the pupeteers are allowed as they are not included in the 'end credits' as defined by the rules. I totally agree. I would think the puppeteers wouldnt be considered part of the "cast". maybe they are? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
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I would also include Mears and Fitzgerald.
This is the one i was actually interested in From what I gather, he was performing stunts while in the suit. That means he played an actual Predator so, in my opinion, should be part of the cast. Quote:
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I don't think the puppeteers are allowed as they are not included in the 'end credits' as defined by the rules.
just a note on this, i have seen Puppeteers contributed that were in the crew list and even though I (and others) voted no to it the screener still approved it As the screeners have been told to accept profiles that are mostly correct, this is going to be happening more and more. The only thing I can suggest, because it is what Ken suggested, is to submit a change to remove them with detailed notes. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting brimac5477: Quote:
I totally agree. I would think the puppeteers wouldnt be considered part of the "cast". maybe they are? We can't enter puppeteers unless they are included in the end credits as definded by the rules. In this case, because they are listed in their own section and not included in the end credits, they can't be entered. That, at least, is how I read the rule. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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I don't see how you can use a divider for Jones and Steele as there isn't one in the credits.
Me neither. People really need to stop using dividers when their use really isn't called for... I can see two actors with one role description, (descripted in wordin) which is like having (optical) Berserker Predator, Tr. Pr. & Fa. Pr. Carey L. Jones Brian Steele Which I think most would say it'a a credit to use a divider. Option B, would I think yours suggested, one single credit with two actors and one role description, which gets divided for entering in DVDP: Carey L. Jones Berserker Predator, Tr. Pr. & Fa. Pr. Brian Steele Berserker Predator, Tr. Pr. & Fa. Pr. If we see it as option B, leads also to a third option. One single credit with two actors and three roles, which would be in DVDP: Carey L. Jones Berserker Predator Carey L. Jones Tr. Pr. Carey L. Jones Fa. Pr. Brian Steele Berserker Predator Brian Steele Tr. Pr. Brian Steele Fa. Pr. |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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I totally agree. I would think the puppeteers wouldnt be considered part of the "cast". maybe they are?
We can't enter puppeteers unless they are included in the end credits as definded by the rules. In this case, because they are listed in their own section and not included in the end credits, they can't be entered. That, at least, is how I read the rule. This is something I could buy, but it is the same as with stunt people: When including, when not. Perhaps clear for some, but for the majority hard to decide. |
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| Registered: February 10, 2008 | | Posts: 244 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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I totally agree. I would think the puppeteers wouldnt be considered part of the "cast". maybe they are?
We can't enter puppeteers unless they are included in the end credits as definded by the rules. In this case, because they are listed in their own section and not included in the end credits, they can't be entered. That, at least, is how I read the rule. So it's only possible to enter them as uncredited... and as prove "they are credited in the movie credits at time code xx:xx:xx"  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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I totally agree. I would think the puppeteers wouldnt be considered part of the "cast". maybe they are?
We can't enter puppeteers unless they are included in the end credits as definded by the rules. In this case, because they are listed in their own section and not included in the end credits, they can't be entered. That, at least, is how I read the rule. looking at the screen print, I would have counted the puppeteers as being in the end credits? Just because they are so important that they are listed under the other actors in their own section with a group header shouldn't exclude them should it? | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would include the puppeteers since they are listed in the end credits. Where they appear in those end credits is irrelevant in my opinion. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
I would include the puppeteers since they are listed in the end credits. Where they appear in those end credits is irrelevant in my opinion. I would view it the same, they do appear in the end credits regardless of their section. Many times in the "end credits" of films the cast appears in different sections itself (i.e. main cast/crew/additional cast), and we don't skip over adding those. | | | | Corey |
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