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Partially Matching Credits
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
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If you have a crew member credited with a slightly different role from what is in the allowed list of credits can they be entered or must the role 100% match the allowed credits list

some examples of partially matching/spelling credits
Editor
Production Design
Art Direction
Recording
Re-recording Engineer 
Re-recordist
Rerecorded By
Screen Play By
Designer
Costumes Designed By
Costumer
Special Effects Photography
and I'm sure there are many others

Just to make it clear i am not talking about credits that have a significant extra word "Sound Effects Editor" i am talking about credits that have a slightly different spelling or a word less than what is in the allowed list
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Well, the rules are pretty clear on this (and the bolding is from the rules, not from me): "Include only those people credited with the roles listed in the "Role" and "Credited As" columns. If someone is not credited with one of these roles (or direct translations of these roles), do not include them in the Crew section."

So there's your "official" answer - but most users don't stick to that. The real answer to your question is: some really should be entered, some definitely shouldn't. For instance, from your list, "Re-recordist", "Costumer" and "Special Effects Photography" certainly should never ever be entered, but most others really ought to get a credit.
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IMO it is simply impossible and unfeasible for the rules to cover literally every single accepted crew role. I think we can safely assume that credits like "Production Design" are allowed as long as "Production Designer" is.

I always enter credits that with every practical interpretation means the same thing such as these.

I think the rules should be amended accordingly, so that people are not reading them too exclusively - so that rules allow inclusion of crew-role variants that obviously mean the same thing.

Either we create a constantly expanding database of every possible acceptable crew role variation, or we simply have to trust the users to interpret correctly those innumerable variations - most likely wrong interpretations will get caught in the voting process anyway (unless new contribution, of course). I recommend the latter.
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I agree with Draxen, there's no way the rules can cover all variations used.
I think contributing custom roles would help this a lot, as the voters will all see the exact credit and be able to make a more informed judgement.
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As long as I'm confident that the credit is for the person we're after, I include them. There are simply too many variations to list all of them in the rules.
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Role name variants and functional equivalent roles should be allowed, but unfortunately aren't with the current spelling of the rules.
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I don't see anybody not putting in credits for

"Production Designed by" (Production Designer)
"Costumes Designed by" (Costume Designer)


And there are not any examples for

Creature Designer, but people are entering variations for that

Song Writer, Theme Writer, Original Characters by, Created by (although all but dead) same thing 

So yes, I can see and accept certain "partial credits"  as long as they fit into the categories that are available.

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Or Editor for that matter. I don't remember the last time I saw someone credited as Film Editor... I know it has happened, but most often it's Editor or Edited by.
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All these IMO legit spelling variants show that the wording of rules should be changed to allow them.
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for the list


Editor  (yes as long as referring to primary film editor(s))
Production Design  (yes)
Art Direction  (yes)
Recording (maybe in older movies without Production Sound Mixer credit)
Re-recording Engineer (re-recording Mixer)
Re-recordist (yes)
Rerecorded By  (yes)
Screen Play By  (screenwriter, covered in rules)
Designer  (in reference to what?)
Costumes Designed By (yes)
Costumer (no)
Special Effects Photography (no)

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Designer (in reference to what?) UK credit for Production Designer

Special Effects Photography (no) find this one interesting as 2 of you have now said no to this, is there a difference between this credit and Special Photographic Effects
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In MY opinion, one references the person photographing the SFX, the other is creating effects through the Use of photography.

To me SFX photography would be no different than aerial  or undrwater photgraphy.  He is the person taking teh pictures of what somebody else created. 



IMO

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Agree with Charlie.

"Designer" is indeed a credit used in the UK for Production Designer.
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for the list

Re-recordist (yes)

I don't think that a re-recordits do the same job of a re-recording mixer, should be more something like recordist.

It's a separate credit.
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for the list

Re-recordist (yes)

I don't think that a re-recordits do the same job of a re-recording mixer, should be more something like recordist.

It's a separate credit.


Again, I think it is one of those credits depending on the age of the movie as to how it should be credited.  Sound Re-recordist is an allowed credit.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Sound Re-recordist is an allowed credit.

It is. "Re-recordist", however, is not, and for good reason. See here, for instance.

Or here.
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