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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | Do we place character names all in one field? ex: Donald Duck as himself. Is it Donald Duck/ (all one field) or Donald/Duck (first and last name fields).
Thanks! | | | | Lori |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think it's one field. They aren't real person, so their name are probably treated like a stage name. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would be interested to know the context, but I agree with the above. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,733 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting No_Name_Needed: Quote:
I think it's one field. They aren't real person, so their name are probably treated like a stage name. This. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,652 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting No_Name_Needed: Quote:
I think it's one field. They aren't real person, so their name are probably treated like a stage name. That certainly seems to be the logical way to handle it. It would be nice, though, if the rules clarified this. As it is, I don't think one can say that either way is clearly against the rules. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,652 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I would be interested to know the context, but I agree with the above. 717951-008695 Fun and Fancy Free: Gold CollectionCharlie McCarthy as Itself Mortimer Snerd as Itself Donald Duck as Himself Mickey Mouse as Himself Jiminy Cricket as Himself Not sure why Charlie and Mortimer have been de-sexed when Donald, Mickey and Jimmy have not. But that's a different question. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Next question would be:
Do they need the voice checkbox ticked? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
Next question would be:
Do they need the voice checkbox ticked? Of course... per rules all animation gets checkbox ticked per rules. They even put it separate from voice only... saying (without going back to the rules to look) something like.... All animation and voice only roles. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | If they (McCarthy and Snerd) were live-action i don't believe they would get a voice check box since they didn't speak (Candace Bergen's dad did that).
The others certainly would get the voice checkbox. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,741 |
| | Posted: | | | | I always took the voice tick to mean the live person who voiced the character, or in this case, dummies and animated characters. If I have it wrong, please let me know, so I can adjust my thinking. Back on topic: As long as a search for Donald Duck finds Donald Duck/ and Donald/Duck, I don't care either way. If it does not, then for consistency sake, I hope Ken picks one and amends the rules to reflect his decision. My vote would be for all one field to cover every possibility.  | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | So I'm on the right page, am I to understand if the credits say "Donald Duck as Himself" they get entered as such, instead of "Joe Smith as Donald Duck (voice)"? | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
So I'm on the right page, am I to understand if the credits say "Donald Duck as Himself" they get entered as such, instead of "Joe Smith as Donald Duck (voice)"? I guess it depends on whether we actually KNOW who provided the voice. If we don't, we're stuck with "Donald Duck" as "Himself". If we do know who provided the voice - let's say it's Joe Smith, indeed - then it's: "Joe Smith [Donald Duck]" - Himself. This is in line with Ken's ruling (last post on the page) here. |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | |  Thanks for the explanation, and I thank Ken for allowing local to be modified to how we see fit.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 736 |
| | Posted: | | | | As I am the one who made the contribution, all I did was fix the fictional characters into the first field (as is done with stage names and other fictional characters, like "Jabba the Hutt"). The credits might say something completely different, but I was only correcting the existing profile since I noticed a Mickey//Mouse credit and a Mickey Mouse// credit in my cast database. Quote:
If they (McCarthy and Snerd) were live-action i don't believe they would get a voice check box since they didn't speak (Candace Bergen's dad did that). Edgar Bergen was the first credited name in the profile. There are other actors credited with voices or as themselves. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | What I would have entered:
Ed Bergen credited as Charlie McCarthy as Itself (puppeteer)
Ed Bergen credited as Mortimer Snerd as Itself (puppeteer)
Clarence Nash credited as Donald Duck as Himself (voice)
James MacDonald (1906) credited Mickey Mouse as Himself (voice)
Cliff Edwards credited as Jiminy Cricket as Himself (voice)
If you decide to not use the credited as feature, I would have used the first and last name field. I don't care if they are fictional or not. The names are the characters first and last name and should be in the appropriate fields in my opinion. If not, why are we entering John//Wayne and not John Wayne//. After all, that is a stage name
The comparison with Jabba the Hut is not the same, in my opinion, since 'the Hut' isn't a last name | | | 
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is the profile I was wondering about. I've never seen a change in this way before and was unsure about what was correct. I have no preference either way, though, like reybr, to me, the characters have first and last names so would enter them into both fields. I could see it as one field using the credited as feature. To me, stage names are like Queen Latifah, where there isn't a traditional first/last name set up. | | | | Lori |
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