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Using dividers for song titles in crew contributions
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKevin Coed
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I can't find any mention of it in the rules, and I don't frequent the forums like I used to so I don't know if this is something that I've missed.... but there's a contribution up for voting where dividers have been used to name the titles of songs written for the film.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/punkrich/song.jpg[/IMG]

I've never come across this before. Is this a legitimate use that has passed me by?

Ta!
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Is this a legitimate use that has passed me by?

No, it's not. Latest discussion, including a poll, here.
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Thanks, I did a forum search but, as usual, nothing showed up.

I guess I'm voting no then.
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I guess I'm voting no then.

That's certainly what I'd do, yeah, but as with pretty much all divider-related issues, the community is wildly divided on how to use them, and how to "interpret" (a true art form in itself, apparently) the blink-and-you'll-miss-it appearance of the entire concept of group dividers in the rules... 
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the community is wildly divided


No change there then 
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I would vote Yes for song title dividers.
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I can't find any mention of it in the rules, and I don't frequent the forums like I used to so I don't know if this is something that I've missed.... but there's a contribution up for voting where dividers have been used to name the titles of songs written for the film.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/punkrich/song.jpg[/IMG]

I've never come across this before. Is this a legitimate use that has passed me by?

Ta!


Yes it's legitimate because there's no rule that prohibits the use of group dividers for song writer teams.
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I can't find any mention of it in the rules, and I don't frequent the forums like I used to so I don't know if this is something that I've missed.... but there's a contribution up for voting where dividers have been used to name the titles of songs written for the film.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/punkrich/song.jpg[/IMG]

I've never come across this before. Is this a legitimate use that has passed me by?

Ta!


Yes it's legitimate because there's no rule that prohibits the use of group dividers for song writer teams.


And where's the rule that says you can do it? There's no rule that says you can't contribute covers upside down but nobody tries doing it.
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And where's the rule that says you can do it? There's no rule that says you can't contribute covers upside down but nobody tries doing it.

Ladies and gentlemen: we have ourselves a winner! 
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I can't find any mention of it in the rules, and I don't frequent the forums like I used to so I don't know if this is something that I've missed.... but there's a contribution up for voting where dividers have been used to name the titles of songs written for the film.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/punkrich/song.jpg[/IMG]

I've never come across this before. Is this a legitimate use that has passed me by?

Ta!


Yes it's legitimate because there's no rule that prohibits the use of group dividers for song writer teams.


And where's the rule that says you can do it? There's no rule that says you can't contribute covers upside down but nobody tries doing it.


There's no rule that tells us to add dividers for Visual Effects teams. We can go on an on that way. The divider section of the rules says this:

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Dividers allow the segregation of cast and crew into logical groupings. Wherever possible, these groupings should mirror the film credits.


The only time when a company is mentioned in the rules:

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List individual credits only, not company name credits. Exception: If a company name heads a group of crew, use the Group divider to enter the company name.


That has been added because else we couldn't even enter company names as dividers!
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I am in agreement with Corne here. Don't see why dividers can't be used in this respect, as it would add great value to the database (and covers up side down would not) 
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There's no rule that tells us to add dividers for Visual Effects teams. We can go on an on that way. The divider section of the rules says this:

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Dividers allow the segregation of cast and crew into logical groupings. Wherever possible, these groupings should mirror the film credits.


The only time when a company is mentioned in the rules:

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List individual credits only, not company name credits. Exception: If a company name heads a group of crew, use the Group divider to enter the company name.


That has been added because else we couldn't even enter company names as dividers!


And what has that got to do with using songs as dividers? You've just shown a part of the rules that explicitly mentions company names. Do the same for song titles.
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I am in agreement with Corne here. Don't see why dividers can't be used in this respect, as it would add great value to the database (and covers up side down would not) 


Agreed.
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There's no rule that tells us to add dividers for Visual Effects teams.

Yes there is. You even quoted it yourself.

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We can go on an on that way

We can indeed. And we probably will. As I said before: creative "interpreting" of the rules seems to have become an art form in itself... 

As of yet, it seems that most users don't want this. I also don't see how the rules allow this, except by a bit of backwards reasoning along the lines of "well, it's not expressly forbidden, so therefore it's fine". If that's really the criterium we're supposed to go by, I'm sure there are many more fields we can start messing up right away.

But yeah, you're right - as usual, we're bound to keep going around in circles, on and on... 
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I am in agreement with Corne here. Don't see why dividers can't be used in this respect,


Because it isn't mentioned in any way in the rules, no matter how we twist them?
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I am in agreement with Corne here. Don't see why dividers can't be used in this respect,


Because it isn't mentioned in any way in the rules, no matter how we twist them?


The rules don't need to be twisted for adding Song Titles as dividers:

Do group dividers with the song titles mirror the film credits? Yes.

Do Song Titles of the writer teams account for logical grouping? Yes.

Is that creative interpreting of the rules? I don't think it is. I even think that reasoning the other way around could be considered creative interpreting.

The problem is that the rules concerning the use of dividers are wide open. I can understand why because it's a relative new feature (at least the group dividers are) and the fine tuning is just beginning.
Cor
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