Of the two that I've seen (Dumbo & Peter Pan) I personally wouldn't call them Musicals.

Dick Tracy, O Brother, definitely not. There are songs, but they are in a proper context. I would not have musical anywhere near either of them as a genre.

The animated films should not either, IMHO as the unreality of the animated universe supersedes the odd song sung by a character....

Sing-along, sure that seems like it could have musical attached to it.

One from the Heart I have never seen...

As for Music as a genre, to me it would be reserved for a concert, collection of music videos, an opera or similar, but also for a documentary or film that deals with the Music Industry or Music itself. Like The Runaways that is in theatres now, or that Stanley Tucci film Four Last Songs.

This is all subjective opinion of course... but then so is any discussion involving genres.

Quoting bob9000:

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Dick Tracy, O Brother, definitely not.

Though genres will always be subjective, I have to agree with this assessment: I would definitely not consider 'Dick Tracy' and 'O Brother, Where Art Thou?' musicals.

Personally I wouldn't label Peter Pan or Sleeping Beauty musicals (but I wouldn't vote No on them either).

For me, a film would have to depend more heavily on the musical numbers than Pan or Sleeping Beauty in order for me to regard them as musicals. But that's just me.

This just reinforces why genres are so subjective.

I'm a huge musical theatre fan (owning well over 400 cds!!) but...I don't have Sleeping Beauty, Peter Pan or Dumbo or any other Disney film listed as a musical - which, now I come to think about it, makes no logical sense.

For example: Beauty and the Beast

I have the following CDs:
Film Soundtrack
Broadway Cast
London Cast
Australian Cast

All are stored in my Musicals collection cabinet.

But I don't have the film listed in Profiler as a musical (despite storing its soundtrack as such).

The same goes for The Little Mermaid, Tarzan, Hunchback of Notre Dame and The Lion King.

However...I DO have Mary Poppins listed as a musical.

So, I obviously employ no logic whatsoever when it comes to musical.

I think my brains follows the following:
Is this film based on a stage musical? If so then Musical genre gets added (think: Hairspray, Chicago, Phantom of the Opera, Rent, Dreamgirls)

But, even that logic collapses when I think of films like Zero Patience, Across the Universe, Bride & Prejudice, Cry-Baby, Doctor Dolittle, Prince of Egypt which were written directly for the screen but are most definitely musicals.

Then...to cap it all off I have Disney's Jungle Book as a musical.

Everything defies logic. I'm now going to change my Disney films with songs to musicals.

Quoting widescreenforever:

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to name just a few ....
Dumbo
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Walt Disney's Peter Pan
Dick Tracy (1990)
Walt Disney's Sleeping Beauty
Disney Princess Sing Along Songs: Enchanted Tea Party
One from the Heart

Or  are they Music Genre only .. ? 
Seems for some  that anything that is not a music concert on a stage is automatically a Musical if there is Music sung and performed in a Script..

I think you are stretching

I wouldn't call them Musicals, Terry. But I can see how some would, but then again go back to what the rules say about genre.

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Quoting nolesrule:

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The musical film is a film genre in which several songs sung by the characters are interwoven into the narrative.

That fits very well with my thoughts. Still I guess that "interwoven into the narrative" is rather subjective. Take Peter Pan as an example. I don't feel that "You can fly" is intervowen into the narrative. It underscores the narrative, though. But I guess others may feel differently.

I'd be more inclined to call later Disney films musicals. Beauty and the Beast definitely.