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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,728 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've encountered a few overviews like the one below recently:  I'm not entirely sure whether I should enter ANTHONY HOPKINS and BRAD PITT, or Anthony Hopkins and Brad Pitt. I can see how some would argue that these are in ALL-CAPS, but then again, I can also see why others argue that it's merely a different font, but that there's still a clearly visible difference between each first letter and the subsequent ones. I really don't have a preference, I just want to handle these consistently. So which is it? |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | My opinion would be for ANTHONY HOPKINS / BRAD PITT. We don't (currently) differentiate between different fonts/sizes/colours/etc... So following that, because all the letters printed are uppercase they should be entered as all caps. |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | I always enter those names in Caps, exactly as I see them on the back cover :
cheers
Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Technically the names are not set in all caps. They are set in mixed case with a font (called small caps) where all lower case letters look like small upper case letters. But it's still mixed case and we do not and can not simulate different fonts. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 820 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Technically the names are not set in all caps. They are set in mixed case with a font (called small caps) where all lower case letters look like small upper case letters. But it's still mixed case and we do not and can not simulate different fonts. Agreed. |
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would go for Anthony Hopkins / Brad Pitt. Only the first letters of each name are clearly capitalized. The other letters are small caps, like RHo already said in a previous post. | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | I also would enter them mixed case. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,878 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with the mixed case as well. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | While I can see what Rho's saying & he presents a good argument, I personally disagree. Again my opinion is that for fonts such as the one used in the example, all characters count as capital letters.
That said, I'm not sure how I would vote if I saw it in a contribution.
Looking at the results they're currently split roughly 50/50, I think that we may need to get an official response on this one. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | As I understand rules, we should have those names all in capital letters : in the overview, there is clearly a typing difference between the role and the actor. If the actor is entered as Anthony Hopkins, we do not see anymore that difference which is intended by the guy who made the overview. As for me, I will never vote yes or no on such a futile detail, and on my local I always get rid of name actors in overviews. But this example is much more interesting on another point of view. The text is clearly aligned along the right margin, and as rules specify we have to reproduce the text exactly as written, I think we have a real problem on how to handle that (this not listed in the exceptions, so it has clearly to be reproduced...  ) | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | And some just delight in looking for problems that can exploited for their personal agenda (not the OP). I have to agree with Forget on thuis on the basis, that there are clearly lower case letters involved in the remainder of the Overview, so while i understand his argument is flawed, it also appears tome that the names are in a bloder style than the rest of the overview, but it's hard to say for sure.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: May 9, 2008 | | Posts: 467 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agree that this is mixed case with small caps font. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | I wouldn't vote No against either one.
I would vote No against anyone trying to change one to the other unless there were some other contribution of value since this would not be a contribution of significant value. "Make sure your contributions add significant value to the database." | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Mixed case and bold comes closest, I think. | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | The way I see it... it is all caps. That is how I always did it anyway. Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
I wouldn't vote No against either one.
I would vote No against anyone trying to change one to the other unless there were some other contribution of value since this would not be a contribution of significant value. "Make sure your contributions add significant value to the database." That significant value line in the rules is something that always bugged me. I mean define significant value. It certainly isn't defined in the rules... and what is significant is different to each person. I know to me personally as long as it is a correct addition... or even correction (as long as it is correct) it adds significant value... no matter the size of the update. So in my eyes at least even if someone took a profile such as this one.. and made the names all caps only... in my opinion that would be adding significant value. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: December 13, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 334 |
| | Posted: | | | | So far I've always entered them as caps. That's what I see so that's what I enter. That the first letter is larger is, in my opinion, irrelevant. For me that doesn't make the other letters lowercase.
Obviously I'll follow whatever decision is made, but in this case, unlike T!M, I do have a (practical)preference. Attention is meant to be called to the names and by not using uppercase they don't stand out as was probably intended.
And seeing how the poll is going so far (at the moment 29/25) it would definitely help if we could get an official view on the matter. There must be quite a few of these cases out there, I've come across 2 myself, just in the last few days. | | | | Last edited: by Mallrat |
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