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Clarification needed about dual-sided discs in child profiles
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorraytrade
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I am trying to figure out what is correct. Knight Rider Season 1 has child profiles for discs 2 and 3 for which there is a child profile named "Disc 2" (and same for "Disc 3") by itself which includes in the overview the episode synopsis for side A and B of the disc. The disc ID section also includes disc IDs for both sides. However there is also a separate child profile for "Disc 2: Side B" (same for "Disc 3: Side B") which includes only the overview synopsis of the episodes on Side B as well as the Side B disc ID. Should the first child profiles that say just "Disc 2" and "Disc 3" be changed to reflect only the side A contents (as well as obviously changing the title to add ":Side A") since there is already an associated side B profile for each disc in the parent profile?

Interestingly, Disc 1: Side A is already in the database with the proper "Side A" designation and disc ID, along with a separate side B profile. (There is also a single-sided Disc 4 profile which does not have any side designation.)

In other words, the parent profile in the database has 7 child profiles in it for 4 discs, but 2 of the child profiles reflect side A and B together despite a separate side B profile attached to the parent.
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2 sides are never 2 profiles. that's not how it is done afaik.
Dual side DVD's (flippers) always have one profile between the two.
Those that exist in the DB now are in error and should be removed by my opinion.
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2 sides are never 2 profiles. that's not how it is done afaik.
Dual side DVD's (flippers) always have one profile between the two.
Those that exist in the DB now are in error and should be removed by my opinion.


Don't think that's correct. In box sets containing two films, one on each side of a dual sided disc, you should create one child for each of the sides.
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Quoting RaymondG:
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2 sides are never 2 profiles. that's not how it is done afaik.
Dual side DVD's (flippers) always have one profile between the two.
Those that exist in the DB now are in error and should be removed by my opinion.


Don't think that's correct. In box sets containing two films, one on each side of a dual sided disc, you should create one child for each of the sides.


Gemini is correct here, a flipper although the rules don't specify that child profiles have to be created, if child profiles are created for box sets then technically you should have one profile per film NOT one profile per disc so if the two (or more films/episodes) are on a flipper or multiple flippers there should be a child profile per side.
3 flipper disc (each containing a film/episodes) = 6 child profiles.

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What you need to remember is there is different rules for TV Series then there is for movies. In the TV Series rules under disc level profiles it says to profile per Disc for TV Series.
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Exactly.

And for movies:
- if the contents of both sides of the disc comprise one movie, it's also one profile
- if there are different movies on both sides of the disc, you need two profiles.
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Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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What you need to remember is there is different rules for TV Series then there is for movies. In the TV Series rules under disc level profiles it says to profile per Disc for TV Series.


This is the way I would do it.

One profile per disc for TV series with episodes on both sides of a dual-sided disc.

Separate profiles per movie for different movies on each side of a dual-sided disc (unless there is more than one movie per side; then one profile per side).
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You guys need to get your terminology straight.

A "Flipper" is NOT a disc with two films, one on each side of the disc. A "Flipper" is a disc that contains one film on Side A and continued on Side B. 
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This is the way I would do it.

One profile per disc for TV series with episodes on both sides of a dual-sided disc.

Separate profiles per movie for different movies on each side of a dual-sided disc (unless there is more than one movie per side; then one profile per side).


Agreed; this not only makes the most sense but also seems to be closest to the intent of and the written details of the Rules
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I prefer one profile per film, regardless of the disc particulars.  Naturally, multiple films per side need to be manual profiles, but if they are one film per side are the sides contributable separately?  I had thought not because under Disc IDs, the rules say "Do not enter each side as a separate disc."  But, based upon this discussion, is that only in the context of a single profile?
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I prefer one profile per film, regardless of the disc particulars.  Naturally, multiple films per side need to be manual profiles, but if they are one film per side are the sides contributable separately?  I had thought not because under Disc IDs, the rules say "Do not enter each side as a separate disc."  But, based upon this discussion, is that only in the context of a single profile?


That is talking about the Disc IDs in the disc tab.

Check this rule on Boxsets:
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The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film. The main examples are:

    * Sets where each film is packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind.
    * Sets where each film is on a separate disc, but not individually packaged. This includes gatefold Digipaks and 2-Disc sets in normal DVD cases.
  * Sets containing 2 films, one on each side of Dual-Sided DVD.


See what I put in bold. 
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You guys need to get your terminology straight.

A "Flipper" is NOT a disc with two films, one on each side of the disc. A "Flipper" is a disc that contains one film on Side A and continued on Side B. 


Oh, i thought that was a Skippy 

You're absolutely right ofcourse 

and I should have elaborated that I meant TV series only for my approach. For movies there can indeed be a profile for each movie on either side.
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Oh, i thought that was a Skippy 

A Skippy is a disc you rent and it's scratched so much the only conclusion you can come to is the last person taped it the bottom of his shoe and went jogging. 
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...See what I put in bold. 

Thanks.
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So I am clear then, the consensus is that I should keep the "Disc 2" and "Disc 3" profiles that contain info for both side A & B, and remove the separate Side B child profiles from the parent? (and also obviously correct Disc 1's separate Side A & B childs and resubmit with Disc 1 as a single child with both Side A & B info)?
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