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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,372 |
| Posted: | | | | There was a contribution where the submitter properly added single quotes to some of the italicized words but not all of them. I voted no, pointing out that they missed an italicized word. The submitter pulled the contribution and resubmitted adding this to his notes: Quote: COO added
Studios corrected per film credits
Overview edited for Italics ' No Rick, i did NOT oiverlook loverly, I am after title distinction, if you want it you do it
New Disc ID data
[balance of notes deleted by me so you can't tell what profile it is or who the contributor is since it is really not a part of the issue] Is this now the acceptable way to submit profiles? Just add the parts you want and tell someone else if they want it they need to submit it? Could this not carry over to cast? Quote: "Main cast submitted per end credits. I stopped after the main actors. If someone else wants the rest they can do it." My feelings are if you are going to submit a correction to something it has to be complete and correct per the rules. Am I off base here? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,436 |
| Posted: | | | | The subtle hint of the quoted contribution notes is cute Well, first, users should not be addressing each other in the contribution notes, that is what PMs or the forum are for. Second, there is nothing about "title distinction" regarding the single quotes in the Rules. Everything bold or italic must be "single-quoted". Quoting the Rules Quote: If words are highlighted in italic or bold on the case, then identify them with ‘single quotation’ marks. | | | Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan. Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative) |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | You are correct, I don't see anything there that says it is optional or mentions 'title distinction'. I would vote 'no' on this as well.
EDIT: ya_shin types faster than I do...I agree 100% with what he said. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,480 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting ya_shin: Quote: Well, first, users should not be addressing each other in the contribution notes, that is what PMs or the forum are for. Totally agree. Quoting ya_shin: Quote: Second, there is nothing about "title distinction" regarding the single quotes in the Rules. Everything bold or italic must be "single-quoted".
Quoting the Rules
Quote: If words are highlighted in italic or bold on the case, then identify them with ‘single quotation’ marks. Right. We vote against overviews all the time where a user fixes one thing but doesn't fix something else. They get 'no' votes until it's right. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 278 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote: There was a contribution where the submitter properly added single quotes to some of the italicized words but not all of them. I voted no, pointing out that they missed an italicized word.
The submitter pulled the contribution and resubmitted adding this to his notes:
Quote: COO added
Studios corrected per film credits
Overview edited for Italics ' No Rick, i did NOT oiverlook loverly, I am after title distinction, if you want it you do it
New Disc ID data
[balance of notes deleted by me so you can't tell what profile it is or who the contributor is since it is really not a part of the issue]
Is this now the acceptable way to submit profiles? Just add the parts you want and tell someone else if they want it they need to submit it?
Could this not carry over to cast?
Quote: "Main cast submitted per end credits. I stopped after the main actors. If someone else wants the rest they can do it."
My feelings are if you are going to submit a correction to something it has to be complete and correct per the rules. Am I off base here? I wouldn't have a probelm with somebody contributing a partial crew/cast list. I've done it myself in the past (computer crashed before I saved final info for crew - and it was a big list; submitted what I had saved and said in contribution notes that it wasn't complete and I had no energy to do it). No incorrect data is submitted so there's no reason to vote no. In the case of the overview then it is incorrect data and worthy of a no vote. | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,279 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kevin Coed: Quote:
I wouldn't have a probelm with somebody contributing a partial crew/cast list. I've done it myself in the past (computer crashed before I saved final info for crew - and it was a big list; submitted what I had saved and said in contribution notes that it wasn't complete and I had no energy to do it). No incorrect data is submitted so there's no reason to vote no. In the case of the overview then it is incorrect data and worthy of a no vote. Agree with Kevin on this. Quite a lot of the low budget zombie films I own like to credit everybody who played a zombie, then they usually have soldiers and like to credit all of those. So if time is tight I might submit just the main cast and save the rest for a rainy day. I don't get why the person who wants just title distinction in the overview doesn't keep it local. If somebody else comes along and updates the other italics words, it's clear they won't accept that part of the update later on. | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 813 |
| Posted: | | | | I am right with you Rick! This is completely against the rules, and you No vote is completely justified imo. Do I get a prize if I guess who the contributer is? | | | Andy
"Credited as" Names Database |
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Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 1,536 |
| Posted: | | | | This is supposed to be a collaborative effort, so if a person takes the cast from the opening credits or even the DVD cover and for the moment ignores the longer end credits, that is a useful first step. We would miss the rest of the contribution (cover scans etc.) otherwise. As long as the data is correct.
Also for crew, I usually list the directors and writers, but not the caterers and people that held the mikes.
But I do agree, if an overview is supplied, it should be complete and correct. | | | Hans |
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Registered: April 1, 2007 | Posts: 53 |
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[b]Note for Ken and Gerri: I will not be dictated by ANY user who tries to use their votes to balckmail me into making a change. The data is not changed by MY choice. according to that logic any data which needs to be changed needs to be rejected. It is the users optioin to make the change himself. I view ANY No votes in these kind of issues as a pure abuse of a users voting privilage.[/b]
Note for m.cellophane, lyonsden5, Newton and anyone else, you want to put loverly in quotes , DO SO, you have no right to place such a demand on me and your vote is nothing short of blackmail. Great, now I am even accused of blackmail... Ken, can we remove the voting feature completely? It seems to be useless, as you are even accused of blackmail when using it. Cheers, NEWT0N |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,911 |
| Posted: | | | | I also agree with Rick. | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 223 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting NEWT0N: Quote:
Ken, can we remove the voting feature completely? It seems to be useless, as you are even accused of blackmail when using it.
Cheers, NEWT0N Not gonna happen...voting is one of the best ideas Ken's added to this site. How else do you think the screeners are supposed to accept/reject....they don't own every DVD ever made... |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,480 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting NEWT0N: Quote: Great, now I am even accused of blackmail...
It is indeed frustrating. One votes 'no' on a contribution from this user at the risk of having a permanent public smear recorded against you in a contribution note. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,372 |
| Posted: | | | | What newton has just posted is the revised submission. The submitter has once again submitted the same overview, this time adding the note: Quote: No Rick, i did NOT oiverlook loverly, I am after title distinction, if you want it you do it [b]Note for Ken and Gerri: I will not be dictated by ANY user who tries to use their votes to balckmail me into making a change. The data is not changed by MY choice. according to that logic any data which needs to be changed needs to be rejected. It is the users optioin to make the change himself. I view ANY No votes in these kind of issues as a pure abuse of a users voting privilage.[/b]
Note for m.cellophane, lyonsden5, Newton and anyone else, you want to put loverly in quotes , DO SO, you have no right to place such a demand on me and your vote is nothing short of blackmail. From what I was just told in a PM I, along with Newton and James have been reported to Ken for violating our voting privileges. This makes absolutely no sense to me at all. If the submitter doesn't want to do the work... he should not submit the profile. As someone here like to proclaim, "bad data is bad data". A correction the the overview that is not complete is wrong. My vote will stand. I will not be bullied by this person or anyone else as long as I am voting according to the rules. The ironic part is this person brags how he is always willing to correct mistakes to his submissions and re-submit when someone points them out. I guess it depends on who happens to be doing the pointing (which BTW was not me. Someone else pointed it out first, I just get the fallout... and so do James and Newton now ) |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 278 |
| Posted: | | | | That is quite frankly AMAZING! | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,279 |
| Posted: | | | | Do as I say, not as I do. | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 813 |
| Posted: | | | | Reading this thread, it sounds like the contributor has resubmitted just to add abuse and accusatiions to the notes? If that is the case, then I would say that the contributer is committing an abuse of their contributing privleges. Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
It is indeed frustrating. One votes 'no' on a contribution from this user at the risk of having a permanent public smear recorded against you in a contribution note. Hopefully Ken/Geri will delete the contribution notes - this is completely wrong and out of order imo as those on the recieving end have no ability to reply. I hope we get to hear the decline reason for this one - I wonder if an appropriate reason is available in the list! | | | Andy
"Credited as" Names Database |
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