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Is DVDProfiler dead or hibernating?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDJViking
Registered: October 19, 2009
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The application has not been updated since 2015. It lack support for UHD (though I see there is a beta with that feature). I was thinking going over to MyMovies because they have an updated desktop application (though not as nice like DVDProfiler).

Also Invelos should think of rebranding the application name. DVD is so in the past. Movie Profiler (or Media Profiler) would suit it much better.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantKnasen69
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There is a beta out. Both windows and Android.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDJViking
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I have seen that. Still don't explain the 2 year cold freeze of DVD Profiler. Do Invelos think they have a perfect application that no longer needs to be updated.

Also such things like UHD, Dolby Atmos, Dolby Vision, etc. should not require a new version of the application. Such things should be stored within a database of options.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorDJ Doena
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I have seen that. Still don't explain the 2 year cold freeze of DVD Profiler.


DVDP has always had long update cycles. We oldies just got used to it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDJViking
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I have seen that. Still don't explain the 2 year cold freeze of DVD Profiler.


DVDP has always had long update cycles. We oldies just got used to it.

I'm not exactly a young hipster, but still am used to frequent application updates among most of the software I use. Being a Linux user I am perhaps a little more used to frequent software updates.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorDJ Doena
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I'm not exactly a young hipster


With oldies I meant long-time users. Many of us have been here for over a decade.

3.0.0 was released March 12, 2007
3.0.1 was released March 18, 2007
3.0.2 was released March 31, 2007
3.0.3 was released May 28, 2007

3.1.0 was released September 5, 2007
3.1.1 was released October 8, 2007

3.5.0 was released November 15, 2008
3.5.1 was released December 30, 2008

3.6.0 was released around March 2010
3.6.1 was released April 3, 2010

3.7.0 was released December 10, 2010
3.7.1 was released around December 2010
3.7.2 was released February 4, 2011

3.8.0 was released around May 2012
3.8.1 was released June 23, 2012
3.8.2 was released November 28, 2012

3.9.0 was released March 14, 2015
3.9.1 was released April 24, 2015

(all dates via Wayback Machine)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDJViking
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I'm not exactly a young hipster


With oldies I meant long-time users. Many of us have been here for over a decade.

Well, so have I. I have been using DVDP to manage my collection for nearly a decade.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDoubleDownAgain
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We are lucky we are getting an update.  People buying physical media for movies is going the way of the 8-Track and cassette tape.

I still think Ken screwed up and made mistakes with how he set up the payment structure, giving out lifetime subscriptions.  He also failed to come up with a new revenue stream.  I'd be happy to pay into some subscription model if it led to certain enhancements.  There was talk about DVD Online Plus, but it never materialized for whatever reason.

I also am curious why he didn't try to work into the Digital Copy World, to track online movies, to expand the market. Not sure why he is doing an update now, as I can't imagine there are many collectors out there running to but it if they haven't already.

When Invelos does go down, and I'm sure it will sooner than later, I can still use it to track my profiles, I'll just have to do them myself.  Which in my case, living in Canada, I probably do half of them myself from scratch already.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTraunStaa
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I really second some form of subscription payment, BUT:

- imagine the loud cry from those who (rightfully so) don't
- I would expect MUCH, MUCH shorter update cycles

I really hope that this can be done some way or the other, as I personally want changes/additions way much quicker.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAce_of_Sevens
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I still think Ken screwed up and made mistakes with how he set up the payment structure, giving out lifetime subscriptions.  He also failed to come up with a new revenue stream.  I'd be happy to pay into some subscription model if it led to certain enhancements.  There was talk about DVD Online Plus, but it never materialized for whatever reason.


Easiest new revenue stream would be Amazon affiliate payments from the wishlist. It could be tied to a price tracker to encourage people to use it.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorateo357
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I really second some form of subscription payment, BUT:

- imagine the loud cry from those who (rightfully so) don't
- I would expect MUCH, MUCH shorter update cycles

I really hope that this can be done some way or the other, as I personally want changes/additions way much quicker.



Subscription has been talked about before, with some of the originals stating that they wouldn't pay and would quit using the program - that means we would lose about 10 profile contributions a year and no more forum hens sitting around waiting to belittle new users questions.

I'm all for a monthly subscription.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantFloorwalker
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I'd vote for a yearly subscription...if updates were a little more often than every two years.  I'd also like to see an updated product name.  Perhaps Movie Profiler, as already suggested.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDJViking
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I think to pay for one year of minor updates is fine, and then purchase for every major updates.

It is difficult to do when there are so many lifetime subscribers, but Invelos could do as MyMovies did. They created a new Android application and abandoned the old but still useable application. Also perhaps open for donations from its users who like to contribute more to its development.

There are a few applications that provide media collection management. There is Invelos DVD Profiler, My Movies, Collectorz, All My Movies, and there is bluray.com, but which only has an mobile application. There are options, but I like the design of DVD Profiler much better than the alternatives. I have used both this and My Movies. At one time I was thinking of creating my own application, but I don't want that hassle.

I think movies on physical format will still be with us for the foreseeable future. Streaming does not offer enough content to warrant abandoning physical formats, and purchasing a digital copy is not of the same quality as a physical Bluray. I have bought a few digital movies on Google, only because the price was cheap, but its quality cannot measure up to Bluray. What can we really expect from a HD movies on Google that is only 500MB to 1GB.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
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... lets face it  overall ., DVD sales are pretty well dead .. and blue ray / the new 4K dvd's are mainly sold if the price comes down after a few months/ years  .,
( just picked up Blue Ray - 2 disc of Apocalypse Now for $4.88  plus ship ).
.  and of course there are no rental stores stores in your city to drive to and rent and drop off later ..
BUT with streaming at $4.99 HD  and buying that same  HD title streamed to your home to capture and store on your PC  for $24.99  compared to some titles at $39.99 street date and then drop in price over the months .

This is all to combat Bit torrents, that practice is halted with the studios agreeing to release their titles day and date to cable companys or Webiste such as apple and amazon ( but not Netflicks, ,they have to wait a few months unless it is of their own Original broadcasting  and even then those original titles do not have any other place to be you cannot buy on blue ray  or dvd one of Netflicks original broadcasts ..

yes,, The new Norm and successful one is the advent of streaming  your Ip provider offers a fully full range of new titles with street date the same as disc street date (  a few years back the date was anywhere up to three months behind street, as the studios  and the Blockbusters of the time did not want any conflcits to offset their rentals.  )  and of course Netflicks  and especially Itunes and Amazon have a complete catalogue of titles dating back to the 30's  to either stream to your device or your ap o n your Big Screen wifi ready TV ..  you can buy  or rent the title for a certain period of time usually 48 hours ..  and now also Netflicks can download your movie to your Ipad or phone  and you can watch as many as your device can hold up at the cabin or in an area that has no Wifi .. this can save you a lot of money as wifi streaming can and will eat up all your data with video audio playback .. 

so what does all this have to do with Invelos  ?  I don't see nay where here on Invelos Profile where you  would want  to or could store your viewing movies..  Sure I would like to be able to store my latest streamed copy of Florence Foster Jenkins  but the data won't support it .. I stream and I watch  but I don't rent or buy the disc..  If I want to know in a year from now what (i.e.) Streep movies I have seen or not seen - that information comes in very hand with a program like DVD profiler ..  I have to download an existing version of (i.e.) Jenkins ( disc upc/code)  keep it in my wish column and the studios listed- I create  another 'studio'  such as Netflicks  or 'Shaw ON Demand' ( my ip provider)  so I know months from now,,  if needed,  when did I see it?  and how? . ( date and stream device) ..

I prefer the hard copy in my hand  and most often the supplementary/ second audio commentary  materials are only available  on the hard set..

say all this ..... this I believe ,  is why Profiler is slow to upgrade their software..  I do believe that membership to our club has decreased drastically over the past two years because of today's new technology & medium ...

thoughts?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantLowpro
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DVD Profiler isn't dead or hibernating as far as I'm concerned.  It does a more than respectful job of cataloging my physical DVD and Blu-ray collection and will continue to do so, irrespective of what updates may or may not come in the future.  I also have no interest in digital downloads.  I own 4,193 DVD's and Blu-ray's and have yet to redeem a single digital download.  For those that find value in digital downloads knock yourself out.  Color me not interested.  I have no interest in purchasing and cataloging digital downloads and no interest in discussions about digital downloads quite frankly.
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Glad to see the dedication.. to  buying.. If half the people like yourself did so on a weekly basis  Blockbusters would still be around.. and streaming an after thought.
Most people like myself will not buy on title  unseen and if it is good enough to own.. will buy  after I watch/rent (stream)  . but not till I look at the performance of a 'said automobile ' till I take it around the block a couple times ..

I was only contributing to the thread as a possible reason why DVD's on its these days are on their way out ..  therefore the program may be waning in popularity and its days may be numbered ..

Hope Not..  Been a valued supporter of all DVD titles and some ownership ownership since 1997 ..    I may only have an actual  title base of only 600 plus titles ..  but Not all movies can be watched more than once  or twice in 20 years ..

but to have access to that title with Profiler saves me an enormous amount of time where it is located in the cabinet ..  I hope Ken does indeed carry on this program .. It is one of two programs I use every day.
the other is Google.
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