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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMrVideo
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We can select DVD, Blu-ray and HD-DVD.  But, no Blu-ray 3D and 3D has been available for quite a while now.  I'm surprised that it wasn't added in the latest update.

You'd think that being able to keep track of your 3D releases would be a must.
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A Blu-ray 3D still is a only a Blu-ray disk the same way as an DVD with anaglyphical 3D is still only a DVD. But you can keep track of them with DVD Profiler. It's an option in the "features and formats" section of the profile.
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You can add your own custom collection category to keep them separate in, or tag the profiles.
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If you make a custom format, you can attach a custom icon to it.
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We can select DVD, Blu-ray and HD-DVD.  But, no Blu-ray 3D and 3D has been available for quite a while now.  I'm surprised that it wasn't added in the latest update.

We have 3D since June 6, 2012.

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You'd think that being able to keep track of your 3D releases would be a must.
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A Blu-ray 3D still is a only a Blu-ray disk the same way as an DVD with anaglyphical 3D is still only a DVD. But you can keep track of them with DVD Profiler. It's an option in the "features and formats" section of the profile.


Not true.  There are Blu-ray 3D discs that will NOT play on a 2D player.  If you put the 3D disc into a 2D player, it will pop up a message that tells the viewer that a 3D setup is required.  Even if you have a 3D player, like I do, but only have it connected to a 2D monitor, it will still display the message.  In most cases, the release has both a 3D and 2D disc and sometimes has a DVD.

Did not know that it was an option under formats.  A lot of good that does, because as I pointed out, the single disc may not play in a non-3D setup. So declaring the disc as both 2D and 3D may be totally false. There needs to be a separate disc type selection, just like the other three choices.
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We have 3D since June 6, 2012.


And just where is that selection?  You have a check box for Blu-ray, a check box for DVD and a check box for HD-DVD.  No where is there a check box for Blu-ray 3D.

When adding new titles by name, the pulldown list does not have a check box for Blu-ray 3D.

I should not have to set up a format, or category, or whatever, in order to list 3D Blu-rays in my collection. There should be a natural selection, just like the other three.
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It is under Features and Formats - Video Formats - Dimensions. Selections are: 2D, 3D Anaglyph and Blu-ray 3D

Filters are under the Formats tab - Video Formats.

All of which has been stated before.

3D is a video format not a media type which is the reason it is not included with DVD, Blu-ray and HD-DVD.
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You have a check box for Blu-ray, a check box for DVD and a check box for HD-DVD.

Media Types.

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No where is there a check box for Blu-ray 3D.
When adding new titles by name, the pulldown list does not have a check box for Blu-ray 3D.
I should not have to set up a format, or category, or whatever, in order to list 3D Blu-rays in my collection. There should be a natural selection, just like the other three.

And check boxes and natural selections for:

- Full Frame
- Widescreen
- Aspect Ratios
- Black & White
- Color

For:
- Master Audio
- TrueHD
- Atmos
- Mono

And, last but not least, for:
- Digital Copy
- Bonus Trailers
- BD-Live
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Even though I don't plan on buying them, is the upcoming 4K blu-rays (Ultra HD Blu-ray) a new media type or still just Blu-ray?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLord Of The Sith
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This Quote is from the CDRom2Go Blog.  I do not claim that the are the authority on anything however, they were one of many sites that said something to the effect of the quote below,

As it turns out, you do not need special discs to burn 3D Blu-ray movies. Regular blank BD-R media will work just fine. Depending on the size and length of the movie, you may wish to choose between single-layer (25GB) discs and dual-layer (50GB) discs. A 25GB disc will hold approximately 2 hours of HD video, while a 50GB disc will hold around 4 hours of HD video.

IMO, if it is the same media as all other Blu-rays it doesn't deserve its own category past what it receives in format.  A Blu-ray disc IS a Blu-ray disc.  When the 4K media becomes available, and actually I think it already is, if it is burned to a normal Blu-ray disc it should also receive a format tick box not its own media.  If the disc is different from other BD discs then it should receive its own category.
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As it turns out, you do not need special discs to burn 3D Blu-ray movies. Regular blank BD-R media will work just fine. Depending on the size and length of the movie, you may wish to choose between single-layer (25GB) discs and dual-layer (50GB) discs. A 25GB disc will hold approximately 2 hours of HD video, while a 50GB disc will hold around 4 hours of HD video.


The above info is indeed true.  But, the point that everyone seems to be ignoring is that there are 3D Blu-ray discs that will NOT play in a 2D player, nor will it play in a setup that won't display 3D, even if the 3D player will play them.  A prime example is Captain America: Winter Soldier.  That 3D release has TWO separate discs, one for those that can play 3D and a 2D disc for those that can't.  Then there is the same movie released 2D only.  There needs to be a separate category for 3D Blu-rays.  When you click on an item in your collection and it is a 3D movie, the general screen does not show that it is 3D, only that it is Blu-ray.  Here is the kicker... that title as submitted to the database doesn't even include 3D in the title.  The only way you discover that it is 3D when you click on the title is the front cover image.

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IMO, if it is the same media as all other Blu-rays it doesn't deserve its own category past what it receives in format.  A Blu-ray disc IS a Blu-ray disc.  When the 4K media becomes available, and actually I think it already is, if it is burned to a normal Blu-ray disc it should also receive a format tick box not its own media.  If the disc is different from other BD discs then it should receive its own category.


The Ulta-HD Blu-ray spec was just recently released.  I "think" that it uses the same Blu-ray media.  But that is all that is the same.  It uses a whole new set of codecs in order to get the size down. I suspect that the authoring tools will be different in that it will also have more features.  And it requires a whole new player, just like Blu-ray 3D also requires a new player.  To only mark 4K releases as Blu-ray, IMHO is just plain dumb.

Again, so what if the media used is the same.  It is the capabilities of what is placed onto the media that make it different and that difference needs to be easily viewable on the main page of the program and easier to select for filters.  Not adding 4K as another format, will make filtering more difficult, just like trying to find 3D only releases.  Try adding a new disc by title into your database that is 3D.  No way to easily search for it. The DVD/Blu-ray/HD-DVD dropdown box will/does need entries for 3D and UltraHD (or 4K).
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But, the point that everyone seems to be ignoring is that there are 3D Blu-ray discs that will NOT play in a 2D player

Every Blu-ray 3D has your usual 2D full movie m2ts container file (plus the ssif folder). What you are talking about are just user operation prohibitions from a few companies, ugly and unneeded like forced subtitles. Some viewers accept such restrictions, while others don't.

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nor will it play in a setup that won't display 3D, even if the 3D player will play them

You also need a special setup to hear Dolby Atmos, but that does not make Blu-ray discs with Dolby Atmos encoded audio tracks a new Media Type. All just more, or other, files on the same media.
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The above info is indeed true.  But, the point that everyone seems to be ignoring is that there are 3D Blu-ray discs that will NOT play in a 2D player, nor will it play in a setup that won't display 3D, even if the 3D player will play them.

Nobody is ignoring this.  As far as I can tell, everyone actually concedes this fact.
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Again, so what if the media used is the same.  It is the capabilities of what is placed onto the media that make it different and that difference needs to be easily viewable on the main page of the program and easier to select for filters.  Not adding 4K as another format, will make filtering more difficult, just like trying to find 3D only releases.  Try adding a new disc by title into your database that is 3D.  No way to easily search for it. The DVD/Blu-ray/HD-DVD dropdown box will/does need entries for 3D and UltraHD (or 4K).

The DVD/Blu-ray/HD-DVD dropdown box specifies media type and has nothing to do with the capabilities of what is placed onto the media.  As has been said, there is a check box to distinguish between 2D and 3D Blu-rays.  I am sorry that this check box isn't enough for you but adding it as a media type, when it clearly isn't, is the wrong way to go.
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The above info is indeed true.  But, the point that everyone seems to be ignoring is that there are 3D Blu-ray discs that will NOT play in a 2D player, nor will it play in a setup that won't display 3D, even if the 3D player will play them.


By that kind of reasoning PAL and NTSC discs are also different media types. But of course they aren't, which is why they have a format check box, just like 3D Blu-ray.
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The above info is indeed true.  But, the point that everyone seems to be ignoring is that there are 3D Blu-ray discs that will NOT play in a 2D player, nor will it play in a setup that won't display 3D, even if the 3D player will play them.


By that kind of reasoning PAL and NTSC discs are also different media types. But of course they aren't, which is why they have a format check box, just like 3D Blu-ray.


Not to mention region codes which also could prevent a disc from playing if you have the wrong hardware.
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